Hackable Christmas Presents? 205
An Anonymous Coward asks what many of you may start thinking about in another month...if you already haven't: "While sitting thru various classes..I started wondering today what I'll drop hints to people with money for what
to get me for Christmas..I want something to hack on and with..but preferably in the sub $300 dollar category. Remember the fun of hacking things like the C64 or
Spectrum or whatever? A fun home machine to hack on.. preferably not a PC (though I know you can get them in that price range) but something a little different. A cheap ARM or Mips based machine or something. Suggestions from anyone?"
Lego Mindstorms (Score:3, Interesting)
LEGO Mindstorms mixed up with Erector sets (Score:3, Informative)
Now that would be an awesome toy to hack on. You could make some pretty durable robots with that.
Add some extra hardware to allow it to understand simple commands, then you could almost make a usable home robot.
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Re:Lego Mindstorms (Score:1)
How about an... (Score:2)
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Never said it would be working... (Score:2)
I just said that someone out there might pay you to take it away.
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Most people? (Score:2)
Most people know the value of a second hand PDP?
That is amazing, my boss didn't even know the value of a GREAT shape 45U Rack that the company tossed out, into my pick-up truck, until after I took it home and then let him know what I could get for it.
I will be sure to ask him the value of an old PDP. Especially since he is already planning on giving me a fully functional AS/400 with a pair of terminals.
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no one knows the value of a PDP (Score:1)
Re:Most people? (Score:2)
Do you already have a 220V line for it, or did you tell the wife that the dryer has got to go and that it was time to start drying clothes the 'organic & environmentally friendly' way? Then a few days later, you can innocently claim that it the 400 was free and putting it in the laundry room is better than dumping it.
Re:How about an... (Score:1)
Of,
PDP-11/44 [ebay.com] on Ebay for 10.50.
XBOX! (Score:1)
Re:XBOX! (Score:1, Informative)
Re:XBOX! (Score:1)
Re:XBOX! (Score:1)
Re:XBOX! (Score:4, Interesting)
An XBOX is fairly standard PC hardware last I heard, so getting Linux on there shouldn't be too difficult. Hack in a bootable ethernet adapter, keyboard and mouse and you've got a pretty good Xterm.
Hmm.. well, .. (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Hmm.. well, .. (Score:2)
Re:Hmm.. well, .. (Score:2)
(When you install the dev kit that comes with kos [sourceforge.net], it comes with two compilers. One of them's called "SH" and the other "ARM," so I figured that the AICA's audio coprocessor was ARM and the main one was probably MIPS. But I'm wrong, so, um, nm..)
Dreamcast is still a goodie, though; even if you don't want to program the DC itself, you can always program the VMUs. There are compilers and emulators out there [mc.pp.se], so it's not too hard to get started even if you don't have a DC..
Agenda VR3? (Score:2, Insightful)
On "http://www.agendacomputing.com/", it's available for $249.
Re:Agenda VR3? (Score:1)
That thing looks sweet. I really like the "H2O" case.
/me adds to bookmarks and starts thinking about who wants to buy him one
Re:Agenda VR3? (Score:2)
Read the reviews first - at least the last revision I read about (no idea if that's actually the most recent revision) was a bit of a stinker, apparently. Maybe OK for hacking, maybe not...
Aaargh, heeeelp (Score:4, Funny)
Anyway, you don't need to go out of your way to give a true hacker a hackable device. In fact, its oxymoronic. A hack is where you figure it out yourself and modify something in an unforseen way. Giving somebody a "hackable" toy is condescending.
Slightly offtopic - I plan on making a homemade EEG (Electro-encephalogram, scan brainwaves) for an Xmas present to myself, I can handle the software side, but can anyone tell me what components I need to get some sensible signal into the serial port.
Re:Aaargh, heeeelp (Score:2, Interesting)
I plan on making a homemade EEG (Electro-encephalogram, scan brainwaves) for an Xmas present to myself
Neat! I've had a fair bit of experience with EEG and ERP work, (I have worked in a couple of university labs doing just that) and I think it would be no more than making a clean little amp. Check out this email [blu.org] which has actual schematics. Have fun!
Re:Aaargh, heeeelp (Score:2)
Check out these guys [serialdaq.com] I purchased one of the ADC-3 units for the lab I work in to monitor some gauges. If you want to work on this somewhat collaboratively, let me know. This sounds like a fun little project.
Re:Aaargh, heeeelp (Score:1)
Re:Aaargh, heeeelp (Score:2, Funny)
homemade EEG.
Crucified Santa is an urban legend (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.snopes2.com/holidays/xmas/cross.htm
Fun with Consoles and PDAs! (Score:2, Interesting)
Hack on something you may not have before. Check out some of the Ports [netbsd.org] of NetBSD [netbsd.org]. In particular, the Dreamcast [netbsd.org] and the Playstation 2 [netbsd.org]. Or maybe the HITACHI Super-H family based Windows CE PDA machines [netbsd.org] are more your style.
Re:Fun with Consoles and PDAs! - Sony PSX (Score:1)
On a happier note I've noticed that a Russian Company called Runix [runix.ru] has ported the Linux Kernel to PS One. The port doesn't come with installation instructions or anything, but you can get the code.... I wasn't exactly sure what to do with it once I got it though. I don't even have a PSOne.. oh well.
handcuffs and a set of interlocking rings... (Score:1)
and slight-of-hand magic anymore nowdays?
must everything have "no user servicable parts"
(and batteries not included) with the box?
magic is technology in its purest form.
It's free and totally hackable (Score:3, Funny)
you can even reprogram her brain,
and sometimes it's quite fast!
also exists in "brother" version.
(bZen
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It isn't easy being the parent of a six-year-old. However, it's a pretty small price to pay for having somebody around the house who understands computers.
Re:It's free and totally hackable (Score:1)
I didn't found the HOWTO-make-a-sister-in-less-than-9month at linuxdoc.org [linuxdoc.org]...
maybe i should switch to debian so I can apt-get sister...
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Its old but cheep, Apple IIGS. (Score:1)
3Com Audreys (Score:2)
Hackable linux-based phone (Score:5, Interesting)
It is not only hackable, in fact, please hack it... It sells at a price probably lower than the parts (est to be around $300)!!! Kudos to Tim Riker from tuxscreen.
while waiting for the coffee to brew (Score:3, Informative)
Hackable toys... [hobbyrobot.com]
Want some programable robots? how about just robot arms? then here [wirz.com].
Still more robot resources [machinebrain.com]... (I am looking for killer robotic laser-beam eyes, if anyone has a link...)
Hackable portable DVD player [totaldvd.net], (might break the price limit though)
whoops, coffee's done...
3com Audrey (Score:5, Interesting)
The quick breakdown on the Audrey, they run QNX 6.0 out of a flash disk, and have a browser, mail program, scheduler, memo pad, and some other tools built in. It can also sync with your PalmOS device. Hardware-wise, it is a Geode 200mhz processor, with 32 megs of ram and a 16 meg flash. It has a built in 56k modem, 2 USB ports, an infrared keyboard, 640x480 touchscreen, stereo sound with built in speakers.
Once you have followed the directions listed in the threads at the I-Appliance BBS [linux-hacker.net] you will be able to install other applications from QNX 6.0, or even upgrade your system library so you can run 6.1 binaries. People have turned this unit into remote terminals, digital picture frames, mp3 players, home automation terminals, etc. You can't put linux on it because it (yet) because it doesn't actually have a BIOS, but once you get familiar with QNX you really won't mind. You get download QNX 6.1 for free, there ISO is Here [qnx.com]. It is a pretty nice OS in its own right.
I've got two Audreys, I use one to run QNX-based ICQ and AIM, so I can dualboot to play ReVolt or take apart my main machine for whatever reason. The other one is my girlfriend's and she uses the builtin apps for scheduling etc plus for web surfing in the bedroom.
The only downside to the Audrey is that its pretty... Shall we say... Lacking in testosterone. Everything from the shape of the unit, to the bootup giggle, to the layout of the manual, to the clear, oddly shaped stylus... Definately was being marketed to the fairer sex. But that's ok, cause chicks will dig it.
Re:3com Audrey (Score:2)
Re:3com Audrey (Score:1)
Re:3com Audrey (Score:2)
1) Can you add any software?
- Yes. On my Audrey, I've replaced the default web browser (too bare for my taste) with Voyager (QNX's default browser). I've also added an mp3 player (phplay) as well as VNC and ssh.
2) Can you mount network files systems (NFS and SMB)?
- Currently there's some work being done on NFS support, but there are detailed instructions on SMB support (that's how I do my mp3 playing. 20GB stored on a server in my closet, Audrey in my living room for access and playback).
Hope this helps.
Those $300 PCs....stupid question... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Those $300 PCs....stupid question... (Score:2)
One of the companies I work for has a mini-tower system for $499. Decked out with 128MB of RAM, 20 Gig HD, 800 Mzh Celeron
That is where you find those sub 400 dollar machines. I would post the place, only thing is, I don't believe that that is appropriate on Slashdot.
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Re:Those $300 PCs....stupid question... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Those $300 PCs....stupid question... (Score:1)
For A cheap roll your own they also have some barebones sytems [tigerdirect.com]
Re:Those $300 PCs....stupid question... (Score:1)
Re:Those $300 PCs....stupid question... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Those $300 PCs....stupid question... (Score:2)
Samsung N501 (or other NUON based) DVD player (Score:2, Interesting)
(Even setting aside the hackability factor, the N501 is a very cool DVD player: Jeff Minter's Virtual Light Machine + MP3 playback = mind altering eye candy.)
OT: Quick easy graphics (Score:2)
ps. Anyone want a copy?
Re:OT: Quick easy graphics (Score:1)
ps. Anyone want a copy?
Heck yeah. I also need to find a Beeb emulator that will run Elite, and I'd really like to find a way to dump my Elite disc image out to an 80-track floppy so I can play on the model B I have sitting in the basement.
Re:OT: Quick easy graphics (Score:2)
Re:OT: Quick easy graphics (Score:1)
Re:OT: Quick easy graphics (Score:2)
1 0 0 setrgbcolor
Or try this:/red 0 def
No xmas gifts (Score:1)
"He who possesses little is so much the less possessed... Thus spoke Zarathustra."
Hackables abound. (Score:3, Interesting)
http://www.homestead.com/hackfurby/ [homestead.com] is the classic Hack Furby website by John Tokash.
You can also hack the Cue:Cat, the LEGO Mindstorms kit, and the entire universe of reality in what is called reality hacking -- just don't collapse the wave function, or poof! we will all disappear.
But the coolest, technologically most disruptive hack has got to be the hacking of the Artificial Mind at http://sourceforge.net/projects/mind [sourceforge.net] where 350 plus open source AI projects are rushing to bring you the ultimate Christmas present of the Technological Singularity [caltech.edu].
Re:Hackables abound. (Score:1)
Cool, imagine a beowulf cluster [trygve.com] of those...
Free Hardware Cores (Score:1)
Wouldn't it be fun to be able to run free software on free hardware?
How about a TI-85? (Score:1, Interesting)
Commodore 128D (Score:1)
Ah I remember the things I used to get up to with my C64 (One of my first hackable Christmas presents). Then when the Commodore 128 came out I did some pretty cool hacks to the Machines in display in K-mart. But not as nasty as what I did to the TRS machines in Radio Shack! Those where the days.
Maybe a G3 phone direct from Japan could be fun or going to Japan this Christmas might be fun especially in Akihabara.
you know else is cool if you have the time (Score:1)
then see what you can get done with 'em. home made internet appliances, email stations, mp3 songlist fetching and playing from bathroom, whatever...
i am thinking of taking an anchient winbook with infra red and 10baseT and useing it as a master remote control unit.
but it won't be able to get me my beloved grey goose and lemonades... which is why i posted all those robot links earlier... gearheads? build/sell me a bartender.
A Microscope (Score:1)
Re:A Microscope (Score:2)
Or, on the more macro scale, one of those telescopes that are similarly ran int he same way.
Get a Sun UltraSPARC box! (Score:3, Informative)
The Blade 100 is a fine machine, it has a
64-bit Sun UltraSPARC-II CPU (500MHz) inside,
an IDE disk, CD-ROM drive and even a soundcard!
It makes a perfect 64-bit workstation. Don't
bother with a Sun monitor though, they are too
expensive for no good reason; you'll be better
off with a normal PC monitor.
The CPU is not particularly fast for everyday
tasks, but floating point and integer maths
performance rocks ("openssl speed" beats an
Intel PIII 600MHz by a factor of three!)
A very nice Christmas gift indeed.
Why hackable? (Score:1)
I prefer buying hackable things by myself.
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3Com Audrey = $120 (Score:5, Informative)
Then, hack it:
We've already got various customization hacks worked out. It's only a matter of time before someone figures out how to:
Supplies are dwindling. You may want to go ahead and by one (or four) now.
Re:3Com Audrey = $120 (Score:1)
I would buy one now but they dont seem to ship to the uk
Re:3Com Audrey = $120 (Score:3, Interesting)
Game Boy Advance? (Score:1)
Or, y'know, you could blow the other $200 on games and take your mind off work once in a while.
MP3 Player (Score:4, Interesting)
Ok, mod be down for shameless self promotion! But you gotta admit, it doesn't get much more hackable than this.
Re:MP3 Player (Score:2)
Get an IPAQ 3635... (Score:2)
Right now it can be had for $450 or less new at some places, and compaq has a $150 rebate on this model, lowering it further to $300 or so. Hacking Linux on it would be great fun, and the hardware is pretty much exposed to the world, so hacking the hardware (if you're into that) can yield a great deal of fun as well.
-Adam
"Okay, we've destroyed his credit rating, repo'd his car, owes money to an escort agency, and is a wanted felon. What else?"
"List him as pregnant."
-UserFriendly
a dreamcast, perhaps? (Score:1)
Newton?? (Score:1)
palm pilot / hanspring / some sort of palmos (Score:3, Informative)
Here's some programming-palm linkage:
Lisp (scheme) [lispme.de]
waba -- micro JVM (~71k), quite cool if you're into Java [wabasoft.com]
extra classes and tools that work with waba, really nice data storage classes for example [uwa.edu.au]
a ui gen program for waba, written in waba
super waba, a bigger derivation of waba [superwaba.org]
waba community site [wabaworkbench.com]
[yeah, I've been having lots of fun with waba
All of the above is free (beer & speech). LispMe you can actually hack code ON the pda. PocketC [orbworks.com] also allows you to hack code on the pda, but it is shareware (not _that_ expensive, about $18 iirc, the runtime is free). The java stuff you compile on your machine and HotSync across onto the target. And of course both Palm and Handspring have developer sections on their sites with tool stuff and doc sets you can nab for free.
Wait until Tuesday Afternoon to make up your list! (Score:3, Informative)
Alright, usually I wouldn't post something like this, but you may want to wait until Tuesday afternoon before submitting your holiday wish list to your significant other.. Why you ask?
Apparently, Apple is planning to announce some "breakthrough Digital Hub" device.. There's a lot of speculation floating around, and rumors that Apple's iTunes, Quicktime, and "another unnamed project" group are responsible for whatever this thing does.. I'm going to spread anything specific, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple releases a consumer machine based on a combination of the cube and the iMac to replace the iMac.. WHo knows what Apple's up to, but I'd pass this along so you aren't kicking yourself for turning in the list a day early..
Game Boy Color / Advance (Score:2)
The Game Boy Advance and Color (especially) are inexpensive and very well documented. The GBA has an ARM processor which is pretty reasonable, and the GBC has a Z80-like chip which is more "retro". Both are fun. (Expect to pay another $100 or so for a kit to read/write cartridges.)
I wholeheartedly recommend GBA (Score:3, Informative)
The Game Boy Advance and Color (especially) are inexpensive and very well documented. The GBA has an ARM processor
I can speak from experience. GBA is a joy to program for; it's much like programming an MS-DOS PC in C, as once you get your libraries done, everything else is pretty smooth. Start here [gbadev.org] for tools and documentation, and go here [qksrv.net] for hardware, specifically the MBV2 cable (load 256 KB programs directly into GBA's RAM) and the Flash Linker (load up to 128 Mbit (16 MB) programs into a flash cartridge). However, try to buy them sooner rather than later, as Nintendo will try to sue the makers out of existence, claiming that the devices are suitable "only for piracy [nintendo.com]" and ignoring the homebrew development scene.
Hack a Furby (Score:2)
hackable eh? (Score:1)
get a big giant clever for christmas (do they still make ginsu knives?)
then get a nice big hunking slab of meat
and hack away!
Pocket PC! (Score:3, Interesting)
The price? Well...a new one's going to run you about 500$, but we don't need a new one...we need something we can conscientiously hack. Mine was a refurb developer's model which cost my lovely mother $200 with a 90 day warranty direct from casio.com.
Dreamcast and Cybiko (Score:1)
RE: hackable christmas presents (Score:1)
Slashdot had a post regarding the hack of a boogie bass last January. http://www.ai.mit.edu/~vona/bass/bass.html
I read this post with virtually no sleep for a couple days and it seemed like the ultimate project. Hang one in you cube!!
Vectrex (Score:2, Informative)
CerfCube (Score:2, Informative)
I've been eyeing up Intrinsyc's CerfCube [intrinsyc.com]. It cost $379 but it's worth a look. There was an thread on /. a couple months ago so maybe some /.ers can give you some first hand feedback.
Or maybe you want to consider Buy Nothing Day [adbusters.org]. If so, get you Christmas Gift Exemption Voucher [adbusters.org] here [adbusters.org].
Great Attitude (Score:1, Insightful)
How about you ask for a cure for your greed?
Hack a Gamecube! (Score:3, Interesting)
It's PPC (Okay, not MIPS or ARM), but wouldn't it be cool to get OS X, or at least Darwin, running on it?
It's got DVD (sorta), a G3, an ATI chipset... and since Darwin *is* Open Source, it's entirely possible to get Darwin running on it.
It may be possible, once Darwin runs, to get OS X to run!
Re:Hack a Gamecube! (Score:2)
Darwin runs on the Mac platform and the x86 platform...
What driver stuff are you talking about?
dyi-battle bot (Score:3, Funny)
This isn't much different from hacking 300a's(drilling & welding) to run in SMP.
Sure it will not run linux, but it will scare the crap out of the familty pet.
hackable toys (Score:2)
The SliMP3 [slimdevices.com] is quite hackable, as the code's all in Perl (see the developer's list [yahoo.com]).
LEGO MindStorms [lego.com] are a perennial favorite, and are extremely hackable [crynwr.com].
And let's not forget TiVo [tivo.com], which is a hacker's playground [tivofaq.com].
Finally, one of the new Compaq iPaqs [amazon.com] can be hours of fun once you install Linux on it [handhelds.org] and begin having wireless fun with it [bitshift.org].
Have you been a good boy this year? (Score:2)
Two suggestions: TiVo and/or DirecTV (Score:3, Interesting)
One is legal, the other isn't quite (unless you're in Canada)
1) TiVo: As has been discussed quite often on here, the TiVo is a fun little toy that you can get for ~$200 at your local electronics megastore. It's a linux box inside, and you can do lots with it (drop it to shell, add additional hard drives, install Ethernet (TiVoNet) and stream stored MPEG files to your other PCs on a LAN, etc.). Check out these links for more info:
http://www.tivofaq.com/hack/ [tivofaq.com]
http://slashdot.org/search.pl?query=TiVo [slashdot.org]
2) DirecTV. This is slightly shady, but still loads of fun. There's a large community of people out there (mostly in Canada, where they don't sell DirecTV service so they're forced to hack it) who spend inordinate amounts of time learning about the DirecTV datastream and how to do crazy things with it. For ~$400, you can get a complete setup tha includes an 'Emulator' that allows you to unlock all channels. The more interesting part is how emulators work (they involve having a Pentium-class PC emulate some functions of the DirecTV access card).
For $80 (for the dish and IRD) + $300 (for an H-Card, emulator hardware, and a cheap $30 emulator PC from eBay) you can have the whole thing, wires, bare circuit boards and all, sitting in your living room. Check these:
http://www.hackhu.com/ [hackhu.com]
http://slashdot.org/search.pl?query=DirecTV [slashdot.org]
3) This is the hybrid: There's a box out there called a DirecTiVo that combines a TiVo and a DirecTV box (hence the name). If you wish, you can combine these two hacks into one piece of hardware (DirecTiVo boxes support both TiVo tinkering and DirecTV emulation). Neat-o.
--noah
How about a GBA? (Score:2)
So if you already have a PC to run the tolsl on thats about $275.00-- right in your budget range.
TiVo (Score:2, Informative)
I've just bought a used TiVo for $100. New units go for between $100 (for a unit that's good only with DirecTV) to $500 or so. Hackable and new sub-$300 TiVos might include a 20-hour unit from Best Buy (IIRC) and a 30-hour unit from here. [tivo.com]
Before going further, let me say just what a TiVo is. The one-sentence description is that it's a digital video recorder; it records TV shows to a hard disk much like a VCR records TV to a tape. This description doesn't do the device justice, though. To begin with, if you buffer your live TV through the TiVo, you can get VCR-like effects, such as pausing live TV, performing instant replays, rewinding, and running something in slow motion. You can then hit a button to catch up to the live broadcast during a boring stretch (like a commercial). The devices get even more interesting if you subscribe to the TiVo service, which is $10/month or $250 for a lifetime subscription. When you do this, the TiVo device calls in using a built-in modem once a day and downloads TV listings. You can then search them to find programs you want to watch (no more need for TV Guide or the like). You can tell the TiVo to record specific shows, or entire series. In the latter case, the TiVo will do so even if the show changes time slot (but not if it's rescheduled at the last minute, say because a sporting event runs over). You can tell it to search for shows or movies by title, actor name, and so on, so if you like, say, Sandra Bullock, you can feed that name into the unit and it'll record all her films that it finds in the listings. You can tell the TiVo to record "suggestions," which are programs that match your profile of likes and dislikes that it builds up if you give ratings to shows.
Anyhow, TiVos are very hackable. They run on Linux, and use a 50MHz PowerPC CPU. Among other things, you can add or replace a hard drive. [newreleasesvideo.com] You might therefore get a low-end TiVo and expand it to over 100 hours capacity for the cost of an 80GB hard disk. You can also add an Ethernet card [9thtee.com] to connect the thing permanently to your LAN. (Even without the Ethernet card, you can get a bash prompt or PPP connection over its serial port.) There's a TiVo hacking FAQ [tivofaq.com] available. It's a bit outdated in some important ways, but it's a good way to get a feel for what you can do with the device.
FWIW, I've not yet hacked my TiVo in any way (I've had it for just a few days), but I plan to upgrade the hard disk and get a serial connection going within a week or so.
Hacking. (Score:2, Funny)
For the cpu the 6809 - if you can still get them - is a really lovely set of instructions. Another possibility is an RCA 1802 or whatever is available nowadays. Another set of instructions with power beyond anything else at the time. Now hack away. Think of a FORTH-like inner interpreter for the 1802/Cosmac in less than 40 bytes! I made a multi-channel datalogger with one of those with only 256 bytes of RAM and 2k bytes of ROM. Those were the ( good old ? ) days of hacking. Forget distractions like Chistmas and new fangled notions like Linux until at least next February. Have some real fun.
Basic Stamp, PC/104 (Score:2, Interesting)
Gotta get your feet a little dirty with both hardware and software.
PC/104 embedded processors and modules. www.pc104.org.
The Tuxscreen!!!!!!!! (Score:2, Informative)
go to tuxscreen.net
Why not go for the real thing? (Score:2, Insightful)
Most of the old systems were pretty much self-sufficient, so it's just a matter of hooking them up to the TV, plugging them in, and turning them on...no need to load editors, compilers, etc since BASIC was in ROM and ready to go at powerup.
And regarding BASIC, I can hear the sneering already, but think of it as a challenge: what's more likely to be a fun hack, writing C++ for an embedded system (in days when that can mean a Pentium-class CPU, megs of memory, even running Linux) or making a Timex-Sinclair do something cool with only 2K memory and BASIC to work with?
Hackable cameras are fun, watermark with GPS coor (Score:2, Interesting)
KODAK DC290
KODAK DC265
KODAK DC260
KODAK DC220
With GPS coords I can create a map of the places
I've been. Click on the map and it'll show the pictures taken there (or near there). Not sure what processor they use though???
Re:An Amiga! (Score:2, Funny)
Getting an Amiga is like getting a child. You need to prepare yourself for the arrival of a new family member. You need to ask yourself if you are mentally ready to fully appreciate the technical superiority you will have at your hands.
Yes, you will swear when your Amiga cries (GURUs), you will lose sleep over trying to find the balance between different patches and hacks, but the Amiga will always reward you at the end of the day, and then you must prepare for wanting more, more and MORE!
Also, you might start loathing the disadvantages, shortcomings and quirks of other platforms, but don't do that. You will find that they sometimes can have their uses and by knowing your Amiga you'll know where the good things in the other platforms came from and what to expect in the future.
By all means, get an Amiga. But if you get one and discover that you are not yet prepared for one, please make sure that it comes to a new, loving home. The world has millions of closets with neglected and incarcerated Amigas who failed to find families who would love them and give them the attention they deserved and craved for.
Re:How about (Score:3, Offtopic)
Donate to both places - you can afford it.
Re:How about (Score:4, Insightful)
Why can't people do both?
Geez; before, it was "clean your plate because there are people starving in China" which lead a whole generation to be fat and guilty about it. Now it's "why are you enjoying christmas when people are out there who have nothing" to spoil the whole holidays. Didn't you know that before 9/11, there were still people who didn't have anything for Christmas? And now, because of 9/11, so many people are focused on the disaster in New York that more poor children who would otherwise receive a donated present for Christmas this year will get nothing?
I don't mean to be a killjoy, and yes, I donated money to the Red Cross for the 9/11 disaster, but that doesn't mean we have to alter our entire existance. I still intend to get my wife Christmas presents, and I still intend to donate a present to a poor child this year.
It would be a pathetic world if people altered their behavior this Christmas and started feeling guilty or vengeful or whatever because of the terrorists. In fact, I would say if people did alter their behavior substantially this Christmas, we would have allowed the terrorists to win.