Beta
×

Welcome to the Slashdot Beta site -- learn more here. Use the link in the footer or click here to return to the Classic version of Slashdot.

Thank you!

We are sorry to see you leave - Beta is different and we value the time you took to try it out. Before you decide to go, please take a look at some value-adds for Beta and learn more about it. Thank you for reading Slashdot, and for making the site better!

Electronic Music 101?

Cliff posted more than 12 years ago | from the techno-house-and-drum-n-bass-baby! dept.

Music 930

Otter asks: "iTunes comes with a sampler of MP3s selected to appeal to the Apple demographic. The one that really caught my attention was a track by Sasha and John Digweed, which has inspired me to learn a bit about electronic music. Unfortunately, I don't know anyone who likes that stuff and my local Tower Records only has Moby (didn't like it),Paul Oakenfold (not bad) and 11,000 'Best of Ibiza' sets. What are the must-haves I should start with? What are the best online communities and places to learn about new artists? Feel free to define 'electronic' as broadly as seems appropriate." I used to shop at Homebass, but they just went out of business, which is sad, as they had one of the most comprehensive selection of electronica that I have ever seen, and most of their tracks had MP3 previews. If you were going to try and turn a friend on to Electronica, what artists, songs, or even specific mixed sets would you suggest? What online sources of electronica are still around.

Sorry! There are no comments related to the filter you selected.

erm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875462)

...i rule yourmonkey hairy monkey ballzhairy hairy very hairy very monkey bnalls.!

FIRST POST!! :)

Re:erm - Maybe so, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875477)

can you imagine a beowulf cluster of those?

Awesome!!!

Astral Projection (2, Informative)

log0n (18224) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875466)

Period.

Re:Astral Projection (1)

log0n (18224) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875480)

Astral projection, Xdream, Dune, Cirrus, Art of Noise (the Seduction of Claude Debussy - AWESOME album)

check out www.maz-sound.com and http://www.jeskola.com/

Re:Astral Projection (1)

log0n (18224) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875492)

DJ Tiesto, YMO, Paul Van Dyk, GFS, BT, Rabbit in the Moon, Micro, Phenix, Atomic Babies, etc

all good artists

Niggers (-1)

Klerck (213193) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875467)

Slashdot janitors = niggers.

Thanks!

GET THESE FIRST (3, Interesting)

metalhed77 (250273) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875469)

IMO the best of electronica (not cliched, not trendy, everyone will ask you whot hat great band is)

Plaid
Tortoise
Stereolab
Squarepusher

electronica (2)

BoneFlower (107640) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875470)

Oakenfolds Tranceport is a masterwork, hands down. His other stuff is OK but simply does not measure up. Darky is awesome, but recordings of him are tough to impossible to find. Christopher Lawrence, Frankie Bones, Eiffel 65.. Apoctygma Berzerk and VNV nation for the darker electronic music... I could list more, but these are a good start.

[on by] A modest proposal (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875474)

It seems that the Janitors, in their infinite wisdom, have banned people who have low/negative karma from posting more than twice per day. Personally I find this completely stupid. All the trolls will simply post AC as I am doing now. Proxies can be used to get around any ipid bans that result from AC trolls.

Surely it is better to let the trolls post at -1 where it is out of most peoples way rather than have them all post at 0 and suck up mod points and time from "legit" users?

I have tried to communicate my thoughts to the slashcode team but alas, to no avail. They are probably all sittin on their starwars bed sheets watching anime hentai tentacle rape pr0n.

Here is my proposal: All trolls that cannot post using their account post as AC. Use proxies if need be (www.antiproxy.com [antiproxy.com] is a good source). I suspect this will show them how useless this idea is. Will blocking troll uid's stop trolls? NO! Will ipid bans stop trolls? NO!

I seriously fail to see the point of this and consider it a stupid move by the Janitors. They want us to troll and crapflood at 0 rather than -1? Fine! So be it! No longer will we post at -1 where few people dare to visit, now we will post at 0 where we will be more visible and waste peoples time, energy and mod points! Hoorah!

Let the games begin! --on by

MOD PARENT UP! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875550)

+5, Inciteful!

Re:MOD PARENT DOWN! (-1)

Klerck (213193) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875580)

-1, Offtopic!

no offense but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875481)

this is gonna pull out so many newbie/wanna-be/poser posts.

too many people out their think they know about 'electronic' music after listening to their keeeeewl hip SWORDFISH soundtrack featuring mr. mtv-superstar-sellout Paul Oakenfold...

personally... i would rather keep you out of the 'community'

if your not in the know, dont play it out... go listen to your coool wave your hands up in the air like an idiot trance/techno/electronica or whatever mtv slang they use now.

and for the people who do know anything, dont say anything... you sellout!

Re:no offense but... (4, Insightful)

Trillian_1138 (221423) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875535)

Implying that not knowing electronica means you can't listen to electronica is the same reason dumbfuck Linux elitists have kept Linux from being as popular as it might be.

The only way someone can get into a subject matter is to (surprise surprise) get into the subject matter... I'm going to take a guess and say you were not, in fact, *born* knowing about electronica, what bands are 'cool', where to get their music, and why others shouldn't be allowed to listen to it. At some point you did, in fact, have to *start* listening to it, conceivably without much knowledge about the subject.

If you want to actively ruin someone else's experience with a genre, then go ahead. But don't be a jerk about it.

"no offense" my left foot. You were tyring to politely exlude the questioner, eh?

Trillian
_______

Re:no offense but...was written by a poser (3, Insightful)

Curious__George (167596) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875599)

Exactly how does your miserable self worth go up by keeping your knowledge or appreciation of art form to yourself? Sharing knowledge or opinions now makes one a "sellout"?

I doubt that you were born with an intrinsic knowledge of anything (none of us are). Therefore you are advocating barring the door only after you are safely inside. What an intellectually dishonest position!

Like all art forms, there is no "right" or "wrong". It is a matter of personal preference. All the questioner is asking is for opinions on the starting points recommended by others.

We agree on one point however. If your personality (as your post reveals volumes about) is representative of the "community" I would rather we all stay out. Something tells me "the community" is smart enough to know that it is you that is driving down property values.

bands (2)

designBureau (592545) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875483)

The original.... Kraftwerk, and the best electronica band out there right now, Boards of Canada

Goatsemon (0, Offtopic)

FigBugDeux (257259) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875486)

THIS IS NOT A TROLL

check out goatsemon

goatsemon electronic music [geocities.com]

Re:Goatsemon (1)

josh crawley (537561) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875526)

---"THIS IS NOT A TROLL"

Uhuh. Suuuuuuure.

---"check out goatsemon"

I (sorrofully) did. I don't think us slashdotters whnt to hear "Penis Bird" music or "Sounds of Anus".

SOMEONE please mod him down.

Re:Goatsemon (0, Flamebait)

LinuxCumShot (582742) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875554)

No, please mod him up... while the song goatse may be terrible, dance of the sugar plum goatse is pure genius.

but who listens to me, my name is LinuxCumShot

PS: this is the best ask slashdot ever

Re:Goatsemon (1)

FigBugDeux (257259) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875533)

also...

T R A N C E [] C O N T R O L
Utah Saints
Ayla
Darude
DJ Taucher
DJ Shadow
Love inc
Robert Miles
Dune ...and i don't think they really count, but i goota mention the klf and black box

Electronic Music P2P (1, Offtopic)

CharlesV (22919) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875490)

www.soulseek.org for the best mp3 search tool i've ever used hands down, and one that happens to be catered to electronic music. Check it out, it's awesome.

Re:Electronic Music P2P (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875563)

go to the *.mp3.dance newsgroup, this is where all the electronic music is posted (the .dance is misleading). There is too much stuff to recommend, from Jarre to MFG, Anthony Rother to Pete Namlook. Simply download mp3s, sample them, and then you'll know more what is your poison. Electronic music labels are usually tech-savy and have samples online (like http://www.toytronic.com/ or http://www.aquafm.com/fax/). Have fun =)

Brian Transeau & DJ Rap (2, Insightful)

mcowger (456754) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875491)

AKA BT:
good albums:
Movement in Still Life
ESCM (Electric Sky Church Music)
Also, R&R (Raresides & Remixes is cool)

DJ Rap:
Learning Curve

Both are unbelievable CD's. Both are somewhat experiemntal/progressive, but well worth the purchase.

Homebass (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875493)

That really sucks for the 'Homebass' company, they could have made a fortune if their site was still up from the /.

Back to the old favorites (1)

SixStars (590741) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875494)

Time to go back to midi's and my casio keyboard on electronica preset

Top artists (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875496)

William orbit - His stereo odyssey and strange cargo albums are amazing
Hybrid
The Grid - some good old school stuff
Air
Sonic Animation - A gateway electronic act ;D
Ferry Corsten & Tiesto - Great trance

sreb.

Good compilations (1)

Winterblink (575267) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875499)

Good electronica compilations can be found amongst the Gatecrasher series. If you can get your hands on it, I highly recommend the latest one, Gatecrasher Digital (should have kind of a black and white striped look with the Gatecrasher lion logo on the front). That one's a three disc compilation, but well worth the money.

The annoying thing with compilations is the signal to noise ratio. A lot of them contain junk with one or two big electronica hits (like one year every damn compilation had the DJ Tiesto remix of Silence by Delerium). Gatecrasher's usually very good at having fresh tracks on them. Digital's one of the best to date. I lended that to a girl at work, she took like two weeks to get it back -- she was addicted to disc 3 (the chillout disc).

Two Words (4, Informative)

URoRRuRRR (57117) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875500)

Aphex Twin

While I think his best work is in his music videos, anything on selected ambient works or Come to Daddy is incredible.

Pauls (0)

DrugCheese (266151) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875502)

Paul Van Dyke & Paul Oakenfold
Can't forget Orbital who's been on the frontier forever.

mmmmm Traci Lords makes some tasty electronica

Groovetech (1)

Reavis (35879) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875503)

I suggest visiting Groovetech [groovetech.com] . They have a huge selection with RealAudio samples. Most of the records they sell are vinyl (do you have a turntable?), but you can get an idea for the different genres and or artists. They also broadcast streaming audio/video preformances and most of the dj's will tell you what tracks they spun. Have fun!

Don't mention SoulSeek. (-1)

Shiska (131) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875504)

...It's a secret.

What music isn't electronic? (0, Flamebait)

Animats (122034) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875505)

Most popular music has a keyboard part that was generated on some kind of device with a CPU inside. And then there's all the post-processing. Really, electronic music is music. Once in a while you find an "unplugged" album, but it's probably been postprocessed through a digital mixing console.

Re:What music isn't electronic? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875544)

You are a dynamo of stupidity.

Problem #1: Tower records... (3, Insightful)

UserChrisCanter4 (464072) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875506)

Or any chain-type music store. Electronic music, outside of big names like Moby, Daft Punk, and so forth, are not going to be commonly found in those stores. It'd be the same as if you were searching for local, small-time rock or rap artists. It's simply not the market they're targetting. Or, to put it in /. terms, it'd be like walking into Circuit City and asking to see a selection of motherboards and cases; it just isn't their market.

There are a couple of good ways to find electronic music you like:
1) local, privately-owned music shops. Be they one-off or franchises, these places have a lot more lee-way in what they order, and especially, the market they want to target. If you live in a particularly large city, you can probably find a shop that specializes in electronic music, or at least one that keeps a large stock of it.
2) This is an especially useful technique: go clubbing. Seriously. Go to a club that plays more electronic-type dance music and just listen. Talk to the DJ if it's a small club (but not while he's working). Alternately, flip on your local Top 40/Alternative rock station around midnight on a Saturday, as most of them have live club feeds, and they'll typically announce names of artists being played. It may not be an authoritative list, but it's a good place to get started and to learn what genres of electronic music you like/dislike.

Rarely reply to my own posts (1)

UserChrisCanter4 (464072) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875547)

Argh... Clicked wrong button.

What I meant to continue on was the fact that you have to have a starting point. It's like asking where to find info about rock. Do you want radio-play alternative, less-mainstream alternative, punk, classic, hair-metal, or what?

Find artists that you like. Try to pin down their dance genre. Trance = circular, repeating beats, usually without a lot of lyrics. Diva = Trance+Vocoder+Soprano singer, etc. Check out Amazon, and see what "people who liked X also liked". Read reviews or webpages about certain artists, and see what names and so forth that people mention. But really, don't discount actually going out and looking.

Re: #2 (1)

Eol1 (208982) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875605)

Bah. Clubbing is a waste of time if you are looking for good electronica musik. All you hear is the same anthems remixed and remixed (think pop top 40 of electronica).

If you really plan to go out and listen to some good musik, highly suggest finding a good cafe or bar. Since the idea behind these to establishments is usually to get you to relax and chill with friends (and get your $$$), the music is usually good background noise. Since music isn't the focus of these joints, they usually can afford to play some orginal and more non-mainstream music. Clubs on the other hand are way to into trying to draw a crowd and keep them moving and coming back (and get even more of your $$$). Needless to say, you almost never will hear anything new or down tempo.

Another good way is good old shoutcast (http://wwww.shoutcast.com). Get yourself on some european streams now that CARP has killed america, listen for anythinn you like, write down the titles you enjoy.

If you are looking for an excellent place to purchase electronica music from for relatively cheap (and don't mind shipping charges), highly suggest World of Music (http://www.wom.de/).

Used to shop there locally all the time and now that I live in the states, mail order with them (they ship international for reasonable rates). And before somebody pipes in you can get most releases in the US, let me shoot you down.

1. It is cheaper to pay international shipping than purchase "imports" from a US store.

2. US releases OFTEN cost more than the same european release WHILE ALSO normally sharting you out of a song or two (or even a bonus CD)

Disclaimer: Yes I know some clubs have orginal DJ, yes I have heard some AMAZING sets at clubs. But honestly, 99% are electronica top 40. This goes world wide.

Abstract techno greats (4, Informative)

Hagakure (203111) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875507)

autechre - broken beats and strange melodies - otherworldly. my second favorite "techno" act.

aphex twin - the granddaddy of abstract techno, you can hear him on mtv these days but he's still got style.

kraftwerk - okay, really the true fathers of techno. anything they've touched is good, but start with man machine or radioactivity

squarepusher - drum-n-bass, dub, electronic freakout. budokhan mindphone is an easy favorite for its chilled out dub stylings.

panasonic - cold analog minimal thumps and pops, great for any mood. will destroy your head, so be careful. these guys are what i reach for when i want my thump to thump.

pole - nu-dub, reggae thumps and echo produced by this madmans laptop

kit clayton - see pole, except put it in a blender with some magic mushrooms. kit clayton's style is crazy, dubbed out techno with familiar sounds used in new ways. a true great.

House Music/DnB Music (2)

artlu (265391) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875508)

Hey. I think the Genre of music you would like would either be of a House music nature or more of a drum and bass nature. For house music start with some awesome albums specifically Dance Factory by Louie Devito (He did all of the NYC Underground Volumes) also check out DJ Irene. If you liked metal music and just got into this electronic genre try some DJ Venom.

I write for the online magazine Kludge Sound [ekmag.com] so check that out as I review a lot of albums in this genre for them.

As for the drum and bass/trance genres are concerned. Bad Boy Bill (Bangin the Box Vol.5) is house music and some scratching, but hardcore is an artist called DJ Shadow *highly recommended* and like you mentioned earlier Paul Oakenfold is always good.

Other than that just check out your favorite dance music on cdnow they should have a good list! Aj

Top of the list should be... (1)

Drakar (66577) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875510)

Aphex Twin.

three words (2)

Edmund Blackadder (559735) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875511)

Paul van Dyke

Don't like Moby now? (3, Funny)

quistas (137309) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875512)

Boy, I hope you've got Tivo, or you're going to hate him after another couple commercial breaks.

-- q

Re:Don't like Moby now? (1)

Winterblink (575267) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875523)

Hahahha. Ain't that the truth. The guy's sold every damn song he's ever written to some manufacturer or marketer for use in commercials.

Good Reference (1)

fromcat (526579) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875515)

I've been into electronica for quite a while now. I make it now and have found that the All Music Guide to Electronica is truly a "definive guide" to this kind of music. Not only does it review hundreds of the major artists, it shows how all the weird sub-genres link together (always confusing to me) ISBN: 0-87930-628-9 good luck

BoC (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875516)

As much as I hate to admit it, if I were trying to turn a friend onto electronic music, I would make them listen to Boards of Canada's 'Geogaddi' or 'Music Has the Right to Children' first and foremost. I can definitely see these two breaking into the pop charts in the future; they definitely hold some universal appeal in their music.

Heh..like asking ppl if they prefer GM to Ford (3, Insightful)

Eol1 (208982) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875517)

2 cents:

Orbital - Orbital
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works
Underworld - Beaucomp Fish
Mono - Formica Blues

Any thing by Portishead, Massive Attack, Viennia Scientists, Tricky, LTJ Bukem.

For a good sampler... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875518)

listen to some of the stuff at http://www.di.fm/ / http://www.digitallyimported.com/

If you hear something you like, note the artist and look into them. It is what I do to find some cool stuff...

my suggestions, and, goto http://www.shoutcast.org (0)

duran.goodyear (257083) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875522)

Check out the Global Underworld Series.
I'm currently listening to GU22 all the time, with Dave Seaman.

Check out John Diggweed's Latest, MMII. /me looks at his CD shelf...
Paul Van Dyk is good.
his latest "Politics of dancing" is really good.

hit your nearest P2P software, and see whats on teh internet.
Also
ALSO
I HIGHLY SUGGEST getting on http://www.shoutcast.org and looking up some streaming feeds of the artists above, and others. /me points at the RIAA "LISTEN"
ALL of the electronica I own (close to 40 CD's) I heard of the artist from INTERNET STREAMING AUDIO, and from friends who hear it on STREAMING FEEDS.

good luck, enjoy!

Re:my suggestions, and, goto http://www.shoutcast. (1)

ogre2112 (134836) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875618)

I'd mod it up, but alas the ModerationGods(tm) have not appointed me in what seems to be eons.

Shoutcast is an excellent way to come accross new electronic bands. There's sooo much crap out there, and electronica is very rarely pimped by the media. I like to find a good station, listen to it for a bit and then research the songs I like. If I find a couple tunes by a specific group that are good, I'll throw fifteen or twenty bucks their way for the CD.

I can't be the only one doing this..

The RIAA is making a really bad decision in it's recent actions regarding streaming audio. People that steal music will steal it regardless of how much of a pain in the ass it is. But you piss off your paying customers, you're screwed.

Classics.. (1)

iONiUM (530420) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875524)

Like:
Crystal Method
Prodigy
Chemical Brothers
Is what i'd suggest..

Just like learning to read... (1)

qeloi (313191) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875525)

Want to know about electronic music? Read the Electronica Primer. http://phobos.plato.nl/e-primer/ [plato.nl]

In the know (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875529)

If you like Digweed,

check out the likes of Nick Warren, his group Way Out West, Deep Dish and get anything from the Global Underground [globalunderground.co.uk] range.

Also should check out Timo Maas [timomaas.de] and Anthony Pappa [spaced.co.uk] .

As an electronic musician in the trade, I strongly urge you to purchase music instead of downloadin them for free as we dont make nearly as much money as Britney or N'Sync.

What's more our gadgets cost an arm and a leg...

Artists of varying subgenres (2, Insightful)

ashpool7 (18172) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875530)

BT (The man, period. I'm not kidding :)
Underworld
Way Out West
Chicane
Hybrid
William Orbit
Orbital
Robert Miles

All are good enough that you can go to your local record store, pick up any regular album, and be happy with it.

missed one (1)

ashpool7 (18172) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875548)

I can't belive I left out Paul van Dyk. 10 CDs and I skip over him... it's too late at night.

Kraftwerk (1)

owenc (255848) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875532)

Kraftwerk. Their discography here [t-online.de] and their official homepage here [kraftwerk.de] . A good cd to get you started would be "the mix", which has track representing many of their cds. Kind of like a greatest hits. I personally like electric cafe and Trans Europe Express.

Orbital and Aphex Twin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875536)

1) Orbital. Pretty much anything of theirs is worthwile, but I'd start with "In Sides", and then go either "Orbital 2" (which is more "techno") or "Middle of Nowhere" which is kind of more trippy ambient.

2) Aphex Twin, aka AFX, aka Richard D. James. "Druqs", his latest, is a cool mix of moody piano tracks and wild, sometimes disturbing techno stuff. Very drum-machine happy, but he can do some neat things with it.

Start with the Orbital.

VNV Nation (2)

xRizen (319121) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875537)

rules all! Awesome lyrics, awesome sound. I don't even really like electronica, but VNV makes my soul smile.

Re:VNV Nation (1)

EK_ARC (592478) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875549)

I'm a fan of Terre Thaemlitz, Bill Laswell, and DJ Cheb I Sabbah myself, I've heard some Oakenfeild, but I'm not an Electronica guru. I heard the 3 afformentioned artists on a now deceased (Thank you RIAA, pig !@#$ers) Internet Radio station called SomaFM, which was a good place to explore and discover new sound. I now own albums from all three artists, and enjoy the music very much.

Re:VNV Nation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875561)

Is totally rocksome. Word up, my homie!
-GLFO

Re:VNV Nation (1)

Winterblink (575267) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875565)

I wouldn't classify them as electronica but VNV is DEFINITELY one of the best bands out there. Love their stuff.

USian pie by poopbot (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875539)

USian Pie

A long, long time ago I can still remember How the trollers used to make me smile And I knew if I had to boast That I could try to get first post And maybe I'd be happy for a while But moderators made me shiver With every minus they'd deliver DoS scripts couldn't stop it They scored them all "Offtopic" I know that it's cheap crack they smoke And meta-moderation's broke At first I thought it was a joke The day that trolltalk died

-- Chorus --
Bye, bye, MEEPTy, OOG, and Grits guy Drove the Cruiser like some loser who starts posts with a *sigh*
Those Steve Woston posts that we all knew were a lie Wonder what became of girls petrified? What became of girls petrified?
--

Did you write a bunch of Perl? And did it make you want to hurl Feces at the Wall? Can you believe these lame-ass polls? Do you post big stretched-out assholes? Can you make the goatse.cx link not show? Well I know you think that Siggy sucked Will the real Bruce Perens please stand up? The bots don't have a clue. Man, I dig those trolls from Shoe! I was a rabid Free Speech advocate With a Red Hat T-shirt and a Free Beer gut
Bought my Sony laptop working Pizza Hut The day that trolltalk died

-- Chorus --

It's been two years since the IPO And LNUX sinks to all-time lows But that's not how it used to be When Spiral showed how it was done Trolling as Jon Erikson Who worked for NPO Technologies Oh and while they tried to filter posts Somebody rooted Slashdot's host "Crack Slashdot? That's absurd!" Better go change your password While JonKatz wrote a Hellmouth book By using posts he simply took And we flamed him till he was cooked The day that trolltalk died And we were singin....

-- Chorus --

10 grams. Inchfan. Didn't log out. Goddamn The mods will find the sid real soon, man
You can't hide if you aren't AC Your bud (George here) tried BSD A dead Streetlawyer's tips were free And WIPO helped letsriot turn Nazi 70 made his percents up While 80md warned "liberals suck" The moon does not exist It's just a liberal myth Oh and as Taco tried to take a nap We forced him to invoke bitchslaps Do you recall the flood of crap The day that trolltalk died? We started singin....

-- Chorus --

Oh and then we were wearing out "All your base" And started posting monospace
The better for our penis birds So come on, be a zealot, be a dick You don't think Anne Marie's a chick? Because lying's all we do about HURD So go and push for BSD And say GPL isn't free Slow down, cowboy! The limit Is one post every minute Now tell the right wing facist slime Infringing on Your Rights Online That they can't censor all the time The day that trolltalk died

-- Chorus --

I met a troll they called The Rev And asked him if CD BREAK HEAD He said, "That's old. Get over it." And with all the courage I could muster "Imagine what a Beowulf cluster...." But it wasn't worth the trouble to submit The karma caps are just plain jive And everyone's moved to K5 The steelcage has grown rusted And Geekizoid is busted
The three sites I don't see for weeks Segfault, kernel, Comp-u-geek Code is not art. This ain't Freshmeat The day that trolltalk died

-- Chorus --

- poopbot: because we're all crapflooders at heart

Good groups (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875540)

Yes, to reiterate, Squarepusher is excellent, especially his Big Loada EP. Boards of Canada (from the same label, Warp Records), also does some good stuff. Their best is their first album "Music has a Right to Children" I believe.

If you're into cliched electronica, here are some famous tracks: Born Slippy - by Underworld, Sandstorm - by Darude, Around the world - Daft Punk, Kung Fu - by 187 Lockdown, Halcyon on & on by Orbital... thats all I can think of for now. Anyone else got any overly cliched electronica tracks?

A little more specific.. (1)

IAmBlakeM (469721) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875542)

Electronic music is unbelievaly vast. Drum and bass, techno, trance, house, trip-hop, ambient, etc, etc. The list goes on and on.

You will probably fine trance to your liking, most people do. I'd HIGHLY reccommend di.fm [digitallyimported.com] , it's a European streaming site with 5 different streams at all sorts of rates, Trance, Eurodance, House, Hard House and Hard Trance. See what you like and what you don't, and buy from there. My personal favorites include:

Tall Paul (Clubbers Guide to Ibiza)
Paul Oakenfold
Paul Van Dyk (Live at Knebworth and Live at Home London are great)
Matt Harwick (Gatecrasher)
DJ Fuzion (Countdown to Wintergalactic)

For Sasha and Digweed, the San Fransisco Global Underground CDs are absolutely essential.

Check out tranceaddict [tranceaddict.com] for some listings as well.

soulseek (1, Informative)

Hagakure (203111) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875543)

I hafta recommend www.soulseek.org as a great spot to find a lot of this music, and their recommendation list is really tops too. makes it easy to find what you like and find what others who like what you like also like.

marklar marklar, marklar.

Re:soulseek (1, Informative)

Hagakure (203111) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875566)

bah forgot to link.

SOULSEEK [soulseek.org]

go there for sexy filesharing p2p action.

Dang (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875545)

I thought this story was going to be about how to MAKE electronica. I'm sure it's not easy but at least it doesn't require manual dexterity, right?

The Apple Demographic (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875546)

Dear Apple,

I ama homosexual. I boughtan Apple computer because of its well earned reputation for being "the" gay computer. Since I have become an Apple owner, I have been exposed to a whole new world of gay friends. It is really a pleasure to meet and compute with other homos such as myself. I plan on using my new Apple computer as a way to entice and recruit young schoolboys into the homosexual lifestyle; it would be so helpful if you could produce more software which would appeal to young boys. Thanks in advance.

with much gayness,

Father Randy O'Day, S.J.

Digitally Imported (5, Informative)

!ramirez (106823) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875552)

Digitally Imported [digitallyimported.com] , I think, is a good place to start learning about electronica in general. It's internet radio, so it does kind of require a broadband connection, however it lets you listen to various artists without spending time randomly downloading/pirating MP3s, and it gives you (what I consider to be) a relatively wide spectrum. Also, electronica stations are in abundance on Shoutcast [shoutcast.com] , check them out for links and info.

Another personal favorite is Massinova [massinova.com] , which is a pretty small webcast station. Try them out, I'm almost always listening if I'm in front of my PCs.

Digitally Imported (2, Informative)

kwishot (453761) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875555)

www.di.fm

The greatest for streaming.
If you're looking for a good collection...a lot of the good ones have already been mentioned.
Aphex Twin, Crystal Method, etc. Also there have been some pretty good soundtracks in the recent past (Matrix & Fight Club come to mind).
If you don't mind stretching your definition of electronic, you could try some good industrial (older KMFDM or Stabbing Westward, for example).
-kwishot

Aphex Twin (1)

demilurker (571283) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875556)

album: "I care because you do."

"Electronica" has about as much unity as "guitar music", but this is as close as it gets to an overarching classic, methinks.

My favorites (1)

losjefes (592546) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875557)

Astral Projection and Juno Reactor. I suggest listening to samples from Amazon.com or some other online cd store. A decent LEGAL online source of electronica is emusic.com. At least you'll get a free 14 trial.

listen to public or college radio station (1)

jmarca (303319) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875558)

in the greater LA area, there is kcrw, which has a great music program. Also available online at http://kcrwmusic.com/ [kcrwmusic.com] . In my opinion the best show for what you're asking about is metropolis [kcrwmusic.com] . The dj, Jason Bentley, was recently written up pretty favorably in an LA Times puff piece on the local electronic music and dance scene.

electronica streaming/recommendations (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875562)

If you want to stream some great electronica, try www.digitallyimported.com or www.djcentral.com.
The show the artists that are being streamed. Great music.
Also, Jon the Dentist from the UK is great. Paul Oakenfold is still good. The double CD's of Euphoria are great as well.

if you're into the 'heavier' stuff (1)

humble (307247) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875564)

try anything by Ed Rush (esp. The Creeps) or tune into bassdrive.com

MP3.com (1)

numark (577503) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875567)

I'm still a fan of MP3.com, even as it has been sold out to a big record company.

You can find literally hundreds of files there of all different types of genres of electronic music, and I'm sure one type or another will work for most everyone. Some pretty good ones that come to mind are Bluetonicworld, Master Zap, and Synthetic Dream Foundation. I'm sure if you search around there something will appeal to you.

i prefer the hard stuff (1)

eddiecore (592547) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875568)

larry lynx, dj venom, dj irene, omar santana

Electronic/Indie music (-1)

CyanideHD (132907) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875572)

Hm...I really don't know what kind of "electronic" music you'd like, but I've been hearing some indie bands that use many, many electronic instruments. Here's a small list and description:

Barcelona (they sing about and use a Commodore 64!)
Pizzicato Five (One very talented DJ and a singer)
Bis (They did the powerpuff girls theme song)
Modest Mouse (heavily experimental)
The Make Up (Garage Rock, but has some very awesome and very vintage keyboards)
Apples in Stereo (also did some powerpuff girls theme songs)
The Dismemberment Plan (I think they are a four-peice that use a lot of drum machine)
Pretty Girls Makes Graves (hm...ex-MCD, Kill Sadie, and a lot of other bands)
At the Drive-In (Aggressive and electronic+many effects. They are my favorite band)

hm...if you have shoutcast, there's a shoutcast station that is very good. their website is http://www.indienow.com

A couple of good ones... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875576)

Orbital, Fluke, and Plastikman are good...

Wot I like (1)

mrgrumpy (26629) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875578)

Chemical Brothers
Delerium
Groove Armarda (not their hip-hop content)
Crystal Method

What I tend to use for recommendations is Amazon. I don't buy anything, but by putting in what I like, I can see what other people have bought and get good ideas. Then I go down to my local store and try and get them.

I also tend to get compilation CDs as well. The Ministry of Sound do good ones, and I found another one called "Surrealism." Although this tends to show my predeliction for the smother stuff than the harder Chemical Brothers.

oakenfold sucks (0, Flamebait)

dpatters (193949) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875579)

that pretty much sums it up

trance has become the ultimate cheese. there is so much better shit out there but i'm too tired to type it all out.

ATB - Movin' Melodies (1)

Whizziwig (23055) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875581)

Just an incredible techno/trance album. Everyone I've ever played it for has loved it, even my parents. The single you might have heard is "9 PM (Till I Come)", though I think my favorite track on it is "Underwater World" [do-do do-do doo-de-da-de].

[a similar reaction has occured with "the beta band - the three eps", although that's not electronica]

Based on what you said you liked... (2, Informative)

FreshGroundPepper (70119) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875584)

I'd start out with these:

DJ Tiesto - "Summerbreeze"
BT - "Movement in Still Life" or "Ima"
Oakenfold's "Tranceport" is a classic
George Acosta - "Next Level" or "Awake"

Also, if you don't have Sasha's Xpander EP, it is IMO his best work (and I really like his stuff), Northern Exposure (which he did with Digweed) is also at the very top of their music as well.

Some others worth considering:
Dave Ralph
Dave Seaman
Chemical Brothers
The Prodigy
Boards of Canada
Ray Munns
Orbital
The Crystal Method
Underworld

A lot of people are recommending these:
Aphex Twin
Square Pusher
Q-Burns Abstract Message
Autchere

While all of these are very good bands, I don't think that they are particularly accessable to someone who is new to Electronica.

Electroacoustic (2)

ScottBob (244972) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875587)

Forget all the techno/electronica/house/doof-doof/etc. stuff they call "electronic music" nowadays. Look into electroacoustic music, the kind of electronic music that university music professors and electrical engineers have been doing since the mid 1950's (racks of punch cards fed into mainframes). Good starting links are SEAMUS [lsu.edu] and CSounds [csounds.com] .

Stuff you should check out (5, Insightful)

BlueCalx- (59283) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875588)

There's a difference between seminal/influential/whatever and *really good* recent stuff. So I'll differentiate between the two, and hopefully you can sort stuff out.

Some of the most important albums - to me at least - include the following:
Big beat/breaks/whatever: The Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole, The Crystal Method - Vegas, Fluke - Risotto
Trance: BT - ESCM, Paul Oakenfold - Global Underground New York, Sasha - Global Underground Ibiza (by far the best of the GU series, imho)
DNB: LTJ Bukem - Logical Progression (the first volume is my favorite), Roni Size Reprazent - New Forms
Turntablism: DJ Shadow - Entroducing, UNKLE - Psyence Fiction
Acid House: 808 State - Newbuild
Downtempo: Anything by Fila Brazilia, Coldcut, DJ Food, etc. Also, DJ Cam - Mad Blunted Jazz.
IDM: Aphex Twin - ...i care because you do, Orb - Ultraworld, Orbital - The Middle of Nowhere -or- In Sides, Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children, Autechre - Tri Repetae++,

Newer stuff:
Prefuse 73 - Vocal Studies and Uprock Narratives is a wonderful experimental hip-hop/glitchy album, if you're into that sort of thing.
Dntel - Life is Full of Possiblities is the most utterly beautiful downtempo/IDM album I have heard in the past several years. It gets my highest recommendation.
Fennesz - Endless Summer if you're into very static-laden, glitchy, abrasive noise with a kinda eerily nice melody to it at times.
Just got into bands like Akufen, an experimental house group fraught with these amazing breakdowns; and Phonecia, a weird IDM-style rhythmic... thing. It's good too. :)
Matmos is worth checking out if you're into the stuff way out in left field. They did the production for Bjork's most recent album. Squeaky sound effects abound.
I also saw Telefon Tel Aviv, an indie band on the Hefty label, open at a recent show, and they were amazing. Check out their album too.
Finally, The Avalanches - Since I Left You is, in my opinion, the most stunning turntablism album of the past five years or so. 900+ records all sampled, with minimal scratching, into this completely amazing mix that has reaffirmed what you can do with a bunch of seemingly unrelated vinyl.

Most of this stuff isn't specific *dance* music, but IMHO the best of electronica isn't stuff you want to shake your booty to. This might be a little bit scatterbrained, but if you start picking up albums that seem to float your boat genre-wise you shouldn't have any big disappointments. If you want more recommendations that are more specific to what genres you'd like (trust me, I have *lots*), please feel totally free to email me.

If you like Digweed (1)

mfujie (149520) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875590)

... check out the albums released under the Bedrock label (I think it's the label, anway). Also take a listen at Timo Maas and Jeff Mills.
If you feel like investigating some other styles of electronic music, try Squarepusher, Plastikman, Aphex Twin and DJ Krush. I'd definitely try to listen to these artists before you plunk down any cash. Some people love Aphex Twin, and the rest tend to run away with blood dribbling from their ears.

Here are some of my favourites (2)

ParisTG (106686) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875591)

In no particular order:

Nash The Slash - get some of his music linked from nashtheslash.com

Kraftwerk - some good stuff

Komputer - British version of Kraftwerk... similar style

Vangelis - Some GREAT stuff... Chariots of Fire, Direct, Theme from BladeRunner, Theme from 1492 (I think)... highly recommended!

Mike Oldfield - more great stuff... Tubular Bells!!

Skaven - from the mod scene... find some of his music on mp3.com or modarchive.com

Purple Motion - same as above... available on modarchive.com

Necros - same as above... modarchive.com

Enya - made some good stuff

Jean Michelle Jarre - some great classics here

Pink Floyd - not exactly electronic, but still great :D

Tangerine Dream - more great classics

There are more in my collection, but I can't recall them all at the moment. Let me know if you want me to check :).

Underground Music Reviews (1)

HalimCMe (528821) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875592)

A good site with a lot of reviews of "underground" type music, including some electronic type stuff, would be The Wrapped in Wire Music Exile [wrappedinwire.com] . I've found quite a few artists I like by reading these reviews and downloading mp3's.

Hmmm (1)

Audiovore (572647) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875593)

Where are you located? I live in the NW, and is NWTekno is a raver community of sorts. Could be a good place to look for info even if you aren't in the NW

Re:Hmmm (1)

Audiovore (572647) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875610)

Opps for got the URL, http://nwtekno.org/

Try these on for size (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875595)

Dave Seaman (Any of his stuff rocks!!)
* Global Underground 012
* Renaissance Desire

Digweed
* Global Underground 019
* Global Underground 014

Sasha
* Global Underground 013

Paul van Dyk
* Politics Of Dancing

Nick Warren & Danny Howells
* Renaissance: Revelation

Deep Dish
* Global Underground 021
* Renaissance Ibiza
* Yoshiesque One & Two

BT
* Rare & Remixed

Chicane

Delerium
* Odyssey - The Remixes

Any Gatecrasher release, but mostly Wet, experience_, Global Sound System

Hybrid
* Wider Angle

Kosheen
* Resist (Kick ass cover art)

Try some Chill from Hed Kandi. I'd suggest any and all of the Winter Chill releases with 3 being my favorite.

Oh, and get your ass to Area2 this summer!

-Michael

different types (1)

Partisan01 (547933) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875597)

Really there are many different types of electronic music within the genere, much like rock music might have soft rock, hard rock, classic rock etc.

You need to find what you like, I prefer trance to anything else, so I really enjoy Paul Oakenfold, Paul Van Dyk and a few others. If you said you wern't as into Oakenfold maybe you should try a different style. I also like house which is more techno with real instruments kinda thing. So it's real drums maybe a few instruments. I've got a bunch of random stuff like ATB and a few others that fit that. Or maybe you're looking for just techno, things like Alice Deejay (better off alone) kinda the popular songs that you'd hear at a run of the mill dance club in the US.


Mixing 101? Try music appreciation. : ) (2)

Burning1 (204959) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875600)

Seriously, I think your first step should be to check out some of the free music archives...

I'm sure a couple of slashdotters are going to hate me for this, but http://www.mp3.com/ [mp3.com] is a great place to start.

You'll find a huge number of different artists at varying skill levels, and no cost. It'll give you a chance to look at a wide range of styles (something that even a well stocked music store may not be able to do.) Additionally, you'll find many bits of information available regarding what a particular artist used for a song, what inspired him or her...

Turn your ear on... Search through the archives... My personal favorites? Outside of free MP3s, there are a large number of great artists. Consider looking for CDs from The Chemical Brothers, Prodigy, Micronaut, Lords of Acid, The Hive, and BT (I love BT : )

Also, don't forget inspiration from gaming. System Shock 2 had some killer music, as did Need For Speed 3 and Decent 1 & 2 (CD editions. Yes, I even have a copy of the D1 Mac CD because I loved the music.)

Some great gaming inspired music can be found at (he's going to hate me...) Putzi's site [d418.com] , and places like remix.overclocked.org [overclocked.org] .

Best of luck.

a laundry list (4, Informative)

OctaneZ (73357) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875601)

There are many great Electonic bands that span many genres, electronic is not just dance.
Bands to check out:
A Guy Called Gerald [force9.net]
Aphrodite [v2music.com]
The older Daft Punk [daftpunk.com] albums are great
Groove Armada [groove-armada.com]

The Classics:
Lo-Fidelity Allstars [lofidelityallstars.com]
The group that brought electronic to the masses The Crystal Method [thecrystalmethod.com]
MC 900 Ft Jesus [americanrecordings.com] (sorry couldn't find a better link)
The Prodigy [theprodigy.org]

For a more layed back sound check out:
Massive Attack [massiveattack.com]

without a doubt check out:
Faithless [kineticrecords.com]
Hybrid [distinctiverecords.com] and absuolutley amazing group
Timo Maas [timomaas.de] OMG! An amazing artist!

but really just listen to a lot and decide what you like. one great thing about this type of music is there is a lot of collaboration between artists, so you can get some really neat crossovers and sounds.

-OctaneZ

Orbital, Leftfield and Moby Are Highly Recommended (1)

Txiasaeia (581598) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875604)

DISCLAIMER: My kind of electronica is more "traditional" late 80's/early 90's, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. All of Orbital's albums, save Middle of Nowhere, have received incredible reviews. If you want to get an idea of what they sound like, one of their later albums, "Work", is a collection of singles and songs from nearly all their albums. Leftfield is a mixed bag, but the double-cd "Leftism" contains an incredible assortment of nice songs, from tribal works to more "traditional" electronica fare. Sorry to hear that you don't like Moby, but his styles are different depending on what CD you listen to. "Play" and "18", his latest two, are somewhat gospel-y, but his earlier releases are, again, more mainstream techno. If you're looking for early-mid 90's techno, the soundtrack for "Hackers" is a must. Leftfield, Orbital, Underworld, and Carl Cox are among the legends on the CD. The Chemical Brothers started out with some great elecronica, but lately ("Come With Us") they're showing some mainstream influence. Underworld is also a great band to check out; their CD "Everything Everything" is the best live album I've ever heard, and has a great compilation of tracks throughout their career. Finally, early Prodigy (The Prodigy and Music for the Jilted Generation), believe it or not, is an excellent choice for techno. Funky hits like "Charlie" and "Wind it Up" are the epitome of what techno is.

a few that come to mind (1)

Paolomania (160098) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875608)

orbital
aphex twin
KLF (no two albums are alike!)
fluke
orb

(ok, so the first two are redundant with other posts - maybe that will tell you something)

Streaming audio (5, Informative)

Vireo (190514) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875609)

Maybe you'd want listening to online mp3 broadcasts... Almost all online radio stations have forums to discuss what's on air and such; pick up a station you like and you'll see what's playing, and what other listeners like. I suggest:

DigitallyImported [digitallyimported.com] (probably the most popular; trance, hard trance, house)
Massinova [massinova.com] (eurodance / trance site in which users decide what will play next, with a moderation system for the tracks...)
SomaFM [somafm.com] (oops, killed by CARP -- had good Drum'n'Bass)
Tag's Trance Trip [tagstrance.com] (trance -- wait, off the air due to CARP)
XTC Radio [www.xtcradio] (trance and prog house)
Philosomatika [philosomatika.com] (goa and psytrance)
Bassdrive [bassdrive.com] (drum'n'bass)
Xanu [www.xanu.ca] (Chillout and lounge)

Different Genres (1)

Rufus211 (221883) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875611)

Ok, I've been into electronica/techno for a while now, especially some of the darker VNV-Nation EBM and stuff, but I've had one nagging question. Can anyone give a nice consice description of all the types of genres that exist, and what's the difference between them? Some that come to mine include techno, trance, drumb & base, progressive, house, IDM, freestyle, electronica, EBM, etc. Thanks, I'm sure I'm not the only one that is slightly confused on this.

Infected Mushroom (2, Informative)

samzklub (520214) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875616)

Infected Mushroom is my favorite goa trance group. Their tracks are available on mp3.com [mp3.com] .

My list... (1)

Surlyboi (96917) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875617)

Paul Van Dyk: a lot of his stuff is solid. Pick up a
copy of Perspective...

Sasha: Pick up the Wip3out soundtrack, (or just the
PS1 game, as all the tracks are on it as redbook
cd audio tracks anyway. Anything before and up to
Xpander is good, after that, he just sort of
devolves into a sort of electronic parody of bad 70s
disco.

Digweed: Pretty much the same as Sasha, get his
earlier stuff, as his later stuff blows. Anything
up to Heaven Scent is pretty good.

Ken Ishii: Jellytones is a damn master work.

Those guys are at the top of my list, but there's
lots of others. MKL, Future Sound of London,
Propellerheads, Apollo 440, Fatboy Slim, Carl Cox,
Junior Vasquez, BT, Laurent Garnier... Those are
just a few you should sample.

breaks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3875620)

For some real undergroundish breakbeat business

http://www.forwardbreaks.com/nubreaks/webcast/hi .p ls

or www.nubreaks.com in the webcast section. Only on the weekends, starts around 4PM GMT on saturday and 10AM on sunday.

For a CD, check out Plump DJs - A Plump Night Out, which usually goes down well with people who are not already in to breaks.

Domu (2)

SirSlud (67381) | more than 12 years ago | (#3875622)

This guy breaks up beats, and adds really really lougy jazzy fusiony hooks to them.

Awesome stuff. Also, Aphex Twin, Ninja Tunes stuff, Squarepusher, Plastik Man, etc .. for the cut'n'paste to drill'n'bass sounds.
Load More Comments
Slashdot Login

Need an Account?

Forgot your password?