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What's Keeping You On Windows?

Cliff posted more than 12 years ago | from the I-am-bill's-anti-trust-monopoly dept.

Microsoft 3212

schnell asks: "Here's something I've wondered about for a long time. While it seems that the majority of Slashdot readers are no fans of Microsoft, recent polls show that 47% of Slashdot Users are using Windows as their main OS (and I bet that number is much higher in server logs). So I have a two-fold question: 1) Is it just the 'vocal minority' that favors alternate OSes over Linux and 2) if not, what's keeping you from 'putting your money where your mouth is' - why are you using Windows? My own situation is that I use an IT-mandated Win98 (ugh) laptop at work, but at home I'm Mac OS X all the way. While I did pay Microsoft for Office for Mac, I try to avoid filling their coffers whenever possible, so for all the family/friends who rely on me for computer recommendations I recommend Mac or Linux. Do people like using Windows? Are games the driving factor? Or is it just 'the right tool for the job?'" It's a perennial question, and one that is fitting to review every so often, if only to see how far Open Source has come, and how far it needs to go.

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What keeps me on windows? (5, Funny)

Real World Stuff (561780) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680158)

Why the Microsoft ads on Slashdot of course!

Brought to you by the Friday Burn!

Re:What keeps me on windows? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4680182)

Visual Studio .NET ....but Mono is coming, along with Eclipse and all that, so it won't be long

Re:What keeps me on windows? (2, Funny)

comradebren (96596) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680199)

i just want to help keep the economy afloat, and microsoft employees out of the unemployment line.

porn (3, Funny)

tuanjim_2001 (534921) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680160)

porn is keping me on windows.

Re:porn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4680175)


Re:porn (1)

denisbergeron (197036) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680207)

Why your porn love windows, mine rock and su.. on Linux, and I down ever care about virus on avi files !

Games (4, Interesting)

D3 (31029) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680161)

Games, interoperability with others at work (OpenOffice is good but not a perfect replacement), and the ability to maybe get a first post? ;)

Re:Games (5, Interesting)

israfil_kamana (262477) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680201)

Pretty much. I just re-loaded win32 to dual boot with OpenBSD on my laptop so I can feed my addiction to Civ3. (No FreeCiv is not as fun in my view...)

Anyway, where it counts (on servers) I push open solutions where they make sense, which is in most places in an enterprise config - at least as far as my previous work-places have gone.

Ditto (1)

Shadarr (11622) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680222)

Games games games. You wanna play, your choices are Windows or console. Other OSes aren't even a consideration.

Re:Games (5, Informative)

sniggly (216454) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680271)

games here too - although i bought winex and it does a very good job of running windows games on linux.

Linux IS my favourite quake 3 platform, it runs it much better than windows!

well, duh... (1)

Sunkist (468741) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680162)

my phb

Games (2, Insightful)

Groovus (537954) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680163)

At this point that's it. Everything else you can do well with another OS, but games are still pretty much exculsive to Windows. Time to get more GNU/Linux game development/ports going!!!

Whatever (-1, Offtopic)

alexborges (313924) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680165)




Games (1)

eguanlao (443632) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680167)

Only reason.

Re:Games (1)

Moloch666 (574889) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680198)

I second that!

What keeps me on windows (1, Troll)

Tim_F (12524) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680169)

Is the stability. Also the vast number of easy to come by applications. And they all meet or exceed industry standards everywhere. Microsoft Word and other Office apps are what get taught in school, and it's what I'm glad to have learned. And for development, I was lucky enough to go to a place that taught in Visual C++.

Re:What keeps me on windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4680233)

OK, but what keeps you on the crack pipe then?

SLASHDOT SUCKS!!! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4680172)

as per title.
Bash windows in every article - but advertise them... that makes sense.

Well - Duh! (2, Insightful)

moldar (536869) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680173)

Maybe I am not part of the vocal majority but to me it is Games, Games, and more Games. I imagine that is the case for quite a few people.

Re:Well - Duh! (1)

8282now (583198) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680231)

Yeah games!!! Can't quit freecell..... umm... solitaire..... ?!?!! !! Hey what am I doing with this w2k box anyway?!

Mix of systems. (1)

Shaman (1148) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680176)

I have a big mix of systems and sometimes I use various systems to quickly look at /.

For me, that's why.

It's all about the Job (1)

Fideaux! (44069) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680178)

As much as I've asked for a Powerbook, I'm stuck with this Win2k Dell while I'm at work. I'm pretty sure that most of the others here are cube slaves with job-mandated boxes in front of them.

Though, when we get home.....

My company requires it for VPN connection (2)

the_other_one (178565) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680179)

and of course...


Re:My company requires it for VPN connection (2, Interesting)

StillNeedMoreCoffee (123989) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680209)

Speed. My win98 system on a pentium 650mz still is still faster than my Linux on a 1.2g pentium. Go figure.

Re:speed (1)

crow (16139) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680286)

In what way is you Win98 system faster? Are you running the same application on both systems? If you're looking at games, do you have the same video card on both systems (and have you correctly configured Linux to use it)?

Re:My company requires it for VPN connection (1)

SquadBoy (167263) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680268)

What VPN solution does your company use? The reason I ask is many places have a supported Windows client but for many VPN boxes out there FreeS/WAN works just fine.

Games (1)

drpacker (600509) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680184)

Games. And true type fonts. That's it, really. I've kept a near-perfect record of using linux at work, in mac and winXXXX offices, but at home. Win98. Just for the games.

Cuz of all the warez (5, Funny)

gambit3 (463693) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680185)

Cuz most of the warez out there is for Windoze. ;)

Re:Cuz of all the warez (1)

nevershower (587070) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680249)

Do you need warez for linux?

Whats keeping me on windows? (2)

Rooked_One (591287) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680186)

The ability to use just about any application in a crash free environment.

I've been using win2000 since it was leaked and the only reason why it has crashed (on two completely different platforms) is becuase of bad initial drivers back in nov of 1999.

Why would I use anything else? I don't run a server.

Games and Family (1)

Mighty_Mule (625470) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680188)

It is completly the games for myself, plus if it is a family computer Windows is easier for the kids to load up there favourite games.

a lot of things (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4680189)

As a telecommuter, Software to work with SQL Server, to work with my companies Access timesheet software, NetMeeting for meetings, ANYthing having to do with games.

Why I only use Windows XP Professional (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4680190)

Because I don't give a RED FUCK WHAT GNU/HIPPIES THINKX0r!!!

software titles (0)

sbillard (568017) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680193)

Face it. Msft has the developer community and it shows. They beat OS/2 not by technical merit, but by software titles. They will beat GNU/linux-or-whatever too. Face it. They own. They won't let it slip away. Switch to Windows now. If not for your own sake, then do it for your children. You want to see them become productive adults don't you? Then why bother compiling your own kernel or whatever you propeller heads to to make your *nix flavors work.

Multimedia. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4680194)

Video codecs. Audio codecs. MIDI. I think this will be solved though quite soon--Linux 2.5 is now integrated with ALSA, and GStreamer is looking very slick.

Winmodem :-p (1)

wmspringer (569211) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680195)

Can't get a real internet connection in my area :-(

Simple: (3, Insightful)

Dr. Bent (533421) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680196)

Warcraft III
...and all the other PC games that I can't do without. I'm a Java developer, so when it comes to my professional life, I couldn't care less what OS I work on (whatever's cheapest usually wins). But when it comes to my personal life, I choose Windows because I'm a gamer, and windows makes gaming easy (at least, easier than it would be on Linux or a Mac)

Re:Simple: (5, Informative)

Elladan (17598) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680281)

Warcraft III works fine on Linux.

Go to www.transgaming.com

work... (2)

miTTio (24893) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680202)

We are windows shop, but at home its mandrake. Not like I use the computer much at home...8-10 hours at work it enough for me (and my eyes).

What is windows? (1)

4d4m (584216) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680203)

I run about 90 percent linux. My main workstations are all linux, and I dual boot for games alone. Once games are done, I boot back into linux. I use linux at work, linux on my servers, linux everywhere. I can play counter-strike in WINE, but since it doesn't support voice communication, it can't be used all the time (plus, standard WINE's handling of OpenGL games is pretty poor). Linux provides me with literally everything I need, except games..

Games (5, Insightful)

jasonditz (597385) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680205)

I do fiddle around with Linux and FreeBSD, and have boxes dedicated to both (plus a Solaris box), but my most expensive system is a Windows box. And there's one reason: games.

The fact of the matter is games are just a lot cheaper and more plentiful on Windows than on Linux, or even a Mac.

games and hardware. (1)

gurps_npc (621217) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680206)

1) While windows is evil, it has more high end games that run on it. 2) Mac HARDWARE is still over-priced compared to similar PC stuff that you can get cheaply in good quality.

For me, it is the games..... (2)

crumbz (41803) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680208)

I dual boot Linux/Windows 2000 Pro and Windows is only started for games these days. I have finally converted to most of my day to day tasks to Linux apps and am generally happy with them. I think the last time I used a Windows app was about six months ago (Excel?).

I suspect laziness is a big factor, but I think that says more about me than the typical slashdot user.

Re:For me, it is the games..... (1)

dereklam (621517) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680275)

I suspect laziness is a big factor, but I think that says more about me than the typical slashdot user.

You're new here, aren't you?

Applications, baby, applications (5, Interesting)

tinrobot (314936) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680211)

We do lots of graphics work here. We need all sorts of apps -- Photoshop, After Effects, 3DS Max, Combustion, etc, etc... I can run all of them under Windows. Some aren't ported to Linux, not all run on the Mac, either.

It's always been the applications that have driven things. Still the same today.

waiting for a stable version of KDE (1, Flamebait)

badfish2 (316297) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680212)

I like linux a lot, but I'm tired of the constant updating I have to do in order to get features that already work in Windows. My biggest beef, however, is with the KDE, which doesn't seem to be very backwards compatible or upgrade friendly with every major release they come out with. So fuck 'em!

Why isn't Slashdot using PNGs? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4680214)

Same reason people are still using Windows. Change is hard for all of us I guess.

home vs work (1)

zenray (9262) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680216)

I don't use Microsoft Windows at home. I'm useing the Slackware 8.1 distro right now. At work I'm forced to use Windows because of the Public folders / group calendar of Exchange. Also Crystal Repoets, MAX, Dynamics, etc... all the applications that we can't live without.

honestly though (1)

tuanjim_2001 (534921) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680218)

Nothing. I'm on a w2k machine right now. B/c I'm at work. The tools I use here are windows only. That is why. Personally I run RH7.3/W2K/BeOS at home and miss out on nothing.

No Windows, No Gates, Apache Inside. (1)

methangel (191461) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680219)

I use Windows only for games. Why can't we port DirectX to Nix?

Well I'm not.... (2)

drudd (43032) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680220)

The only reason I even have XP installed on my laptop is because I was forced to pay for it, so I might as well have it if I need it.

My home computer and my work computer are both Linux, and I only boot my laptop into windows ~1/month.


Nothing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4680221)

I don't have Windows since early this year. :-)

Ballot Stuffers (2)

miradu2000 (196048) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680223)

It's because Microsoft's quite excellent PR Firm was paid to stuff the ballot box.

"This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane."

Oh no wait, they must of been stuffing the mac OS X one.. They always seem to get confused on which product they are tryign to advertise. Poor MS...

Two simple things... (4, Informative)

Dalroth (85450) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680224)

1. Games
2. Work

1. Until ALL games run under Linux without much difficulty, I simply don't have any choice here. Nearly all the Xbox and PS/2 games in the world don't hold up to a single quality PC game.

2. I work at a Microsoft only shop. It's sad, it's infuriating, and I have little choice. To VPN into work, connect to source safe, upload code to the servers, run terminal services, connect to SQL Server 2000 (Microsoft's only GOOD non-gaming product) I have to use windows.

Re:Two simple things... (1)

derubergeek (594673) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680276)

Do you really have to use Windows for your VPN? Your shop write an inhouse, PC only product?

The Only Thing Holding Me Back Is Cash (2, Insightful)

Bloodshot (8999) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680225)

I'm a long-time Linux user (currently running Gentoo) and want to move to OS-X...but I don't have the cash to get myself that shiny Mac laptop I want. Of course, that just means I've been sucked in by Apple's marketing. I would get a G4 desktop if I could afford it. Between the mortgage, car payment, montessori school for my kid, retirement planning and savings for the *next* house, there isn't anything left over. Apple makes solid hardware, but it's an order of magnitude more expensive than PC stuff.

Games. (2)

mskfisher (22425) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680226)

Games are my #1 reason. Otherwise I'd seriously consider OS X - I do a lot of graphics, audio, and video stuff, and Mac's no slouch there.

That's also what's kept me from Linux - games and high-end graphics. Gimp Photoshop (though it used to be Gimp Photoshop... if we keep it up long enough, it'll be Gimp ~= Photoshop...)

Also, Win2k is loads more stable than 98 or 95, so I'm happier than I was about using it.

because my family friend would kill me (2)

Brigadier (12956) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680227)

If I were to install linux a home after all that is 'my' computer. My gf would flip out even though all she does on the computer is browse the web and use word. My son would freak because all his games would no longer work. not to mention my duaghter who would skin me alive if her barbie thing game didn't work. As for my work environment as soon as AutoCAD is ported over to Linux I will happily port all our stations over. In the mean time only our firewalls and webservers are linux.

Games (1)

strateego (598207) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680228)

Games are the driving factor for high end PC development. The Game indusry is the reason the new Intel Chips are a big deal.
Windows runs the most games and it has the highest amount of commerical games released on it.

If you guys want to get off of Windows(C) forever start to play board games. I Recommend "The Settles of Catan" it's an awesome game or just go play Risk.

Killer apps for non-geeks (1)

fyta (595526) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680229)

Let's face it, other than M$ Office replacements and Maya, there aren't many "killer apps" available for the Linux _desktop_.

I won't personally switch until there is a Linux port of Photoshop and Logic Audio (pro music package).

Time Issues (1)

LiteralReddy (574152) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680230)

I want to switch over to Linux, but between a full time job and going to school I just haven't had time to devote to a switchover. I am trying to get my company to switch machines over to Linux so I can learn on their time.

Re: (1)

spork5 (614657) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680235)

I would have to say that the gui's response time for basic applications such as web browsing is a tough item to let go of. But, as much as I hate to say it, the integration between software (such as the synergy between MS office, ie, and the operating system) is something that just isn't matched yet on the desktop. Hopefully, someday soon, though.

Let's all say it together: (4, Interesting)

Bonker (243350) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680236)

One App:

Adobe Photoshop

Photoshop runs under Wine, I've heard, but not well. Also, type support, which is highly necessary for any kind of decent design work, is miserable under most linux WM's.

At the office (1)

atlantageek (166719) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680237)

I check slashdot from the office. I only have a windows maching on my desk. Though I make sure I use mozilla.

Isn't the answer obvious? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4680238)

It's the same reason that we use gas-guzzling cars instead of solar helicopters, or why we eat slimy hamburgers instead of cooking our own nutritious food, or why we watch shitty tv shows instead of engaging our imaginations in classic literature...
It's easier, and we're willing to forsake quality in exchange for something which requires less effort, or we just don't HAVE the option of an alternative.

a life.... (2, Troll)

Pfhreakaz0id (82141) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680239)

-2 (too easy)

'cause (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4680242)

i think linux sucks as desk-top os. would love to move to osX but don't want over-priced and under-powered hardware ... besides, window is free, no?

stability (1)

felix23 (625671) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680244)

What's keeping me on Windows is that I don't have to worry about missing libraries when I install applications. The windows GUI is very sharp and much faster then the gui on linux. If i move a window using KDE or GNOME or blackbox the window moves with trailers behind and slow. Games also keep me on windows. From time to time I like to play games that are not supported on linux. Basically windows is very easy to use. When i browse online I don't want to worry about a missing library or something is wrong with the system.

convenience (2)

Savatte (111615) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680245)

I do all sorts of stuff with my computer, and I have no desire to search through text files or obscure documentation to find if a piece of hardware will work with my computer. I stick with Windows98se because I can watch Divx movies, edit my videos, make music with fruityloops, and do all the other things that probably work on linux, but work fine on 98. I dont need rock-solid stability since I turn my computer off at night, anyways.

well.. (3, Informative)

nege (263655) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680246)

Its about the games, as I am sure it is for many ./ers. I want to be able to play WC3, Sims, Neverwinter Nights and Unreal 2k3. You cant do this on linux, no way. Not even with WINE, (good luch getting it to work, and its no where near as stable as XP). And while you have the OS up for gaming, its just easier to keep it up for surfing and email etc. Before you know it, its your full time OS, except when you go out of your way to use linux. I do coding on my laptop, which runs linux, but I am not a full time coder, so XP gets more CPU Time.

Simple (0)

Nerviswreck (238452) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680247)

I don't have a bootable CD-ROM or Floppy on my laptop! Grrr. Force me to use XP. Argh! It hasnt driven me insane, yet.

Let me get this straight (1, Flamebait)

WildBeast (189336) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680250)

You want people to use Open Source, yet you use a Mac? Can you get any more proprietary than that?

I've got far too much invested in Windows software (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4680251)

As the subject line says, I've got far too much invested in Windows software over the years to easily change to another operating system. Besides, I like Windows XP. I like Linux more, from what I've seen playing with a CD distro anyway, but not enough to make the change. I'm sure I'm not alone being in this position.

Quite a lot, actually (1)

fmita (517041) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680252)

Though I do enjoy using Linux, there are a few things that make me stick with Windows. Games are a biggy, though I can survive usually with just my Playstation2. Another large factor is speed. Linux tends to be pretty slow in terms of GUI responsiveness, though I've had much less trouble with that in RH8. Then, Linux can be a hassle to use. RPMs, compiling compilers to compile a windows emulator gets kinda old...it's fun at first, but sometimes I wish I could just click things and have them install/run. I hate editing config files, too. This complexity is probably the main reason I'm still on Windows. I don't want to have to make a CVS build of WineX to play my games and use my filesharing programs. I don't want to edit a config file to make such and such program run. Linux is fun, but for my purposes, it's really just inconvenient sometimes.

Software Installation (1, Informative)

grandmaster_spunk (203386) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680254)

I run Linux on a laptop to play around with, but XP on my main computer. My biggest problem with Linux I find is the difficulty of installing things. I spend more time trying to install something, then finding out I need 'libXXXXX' or install some random packages. There needs to be some kind of utility that figures out dependencies, then goes and DOWNLOADS AND INSTALLS THEM for you. Until then, installing software on Windows is wayyy easier. Plus, I've spent more time trying to get decent DVD performance than anything else. Yuck.

1 year under the waving banner (1)

ignantjim (546271) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680256)

I must admit that starting 3 years ago I started preaching the power of linux even though I was, at that time, using windows. Before the mutterings of hypocrite, ignoramus, and sham, let me say this: I desperately wanted to stop using windows, but I was afraid. I was afraid of going over to a platform that, even though I knew was better, was unfamiliar to me as a beginner. Once I did switch though, I ne ver looked back. I will also say that I also sleep better at night now that I can back up my statements with action!

Not feeling a need to change (1)

mrbuckles (201938) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680257)

Like everyone else, the last machine I bought came with Windows installed. It's worked fine for me, runs the games I want to run and I haven't seen any need to change.

If I bought a box with Linux pre-installed, I'd probably be running Linux right now. Absent a powerful reason to switch my OS, I'm not going to switch.

Nothing earthshaking.

Games, apps, etc (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4680258)

Games. Also, my courses all required Windows software for my undergrad. Except now for grad work at different college, everything is Mac.
Linux is just too much learning required for my own personal casual use.

The New "XP Look" (1)

Milo77 (534025) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680259)

You haven't seen it yet, have you? =) It is so pretty.

The polish (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4680260)

There's a certain 'polish' to the OS that I don't see on Linux. Windows doesn't look like it's been thrown together by god knows how many people, each having their own way of doing things. In Windows, someone set a standard, and each app follows that standard.

honestly, I'm kinda scared (1)

taijirad (584518) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680261)

Sad, but true. I could be out there reading more about different systems, about compatibility and the such, but it's a bit of a hurdle that I'm not sure I have the intestinal fortitude to muddle through. After worrying about such things as compatibility, easy of use, accessibility to drivers and the such, I've found it much easier to stick with Windows and deal with the fact that I might be missing out on something.

That's not to say that with a little bit of nudging, that wouldn't change at all. But without quick access to those kinds of resources, it makes the jump that much harder.

Maybe I should slap a machine together and tinker around for a while. Does anyone have suggestions for people trying to make the leap?

Games, Games, Games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4680262)

Various windoze on 8 of 9 PCs. Number nine is a Cyrix233 running freeBSD set up as a router box.

Games, games, games. (2, Insightful)

skurk (78980) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680263)

Here: Games only.

I hate to admit it but, yes, I do play games (Counter-Strike exclusivly) and yes, I do have Windows 98 installed on my computer.

Until recently, I haven't had Windows on my workstation for nearly three years. I managed fine without, didn't miss it at all. I used FreeBSD for about 1 1/2 years, then OpenBSD for six months, and now I'm back on Debian Linux.

I'll try WineX [transgaming.com] tonight and will leave a report here if it is as good as they claim.

Audio Software (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4680264)

Logic Audio. Only reason.

work (2)

tongue (30814) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680265)

My situation is that my employer-provided machine HAS to run win2k, because that's our platform (not my call, believe me :)). My laptop runs Mandrake 9 right now, I'm considering switching back to gentoo. my gateway and fileserver is a linux box, which i also use as a desktop via the win32 x server from xfree86.cygwin.com. so i'm essentially a sheep in wolf's clothing, using linux as my primary desktop of choice, while doing what minimal tasks i have to in windows.

Stability (1)

Gordo_1 (256312) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680266)

Have you used Gnome or KDE recently? When I need to get something done without having to deal with various application crashes, I'm much more impressed by the stability of Windows 2000 and XP.

Bash Mico$oft all you want, but so long as they keep producing a superior desktop product, I will continue to use it.

Games mostly some office (1)

ender- (42944) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680267)

The main things that keep me in Windows are games, and MS Office.

I've gotten some games running with Transgaming's Winex, but I'm still waiting for NWN, and some games just don't work in wine.

Also MS Office. I know I can get Crossover Office, but I don't have the $$ to pay for it. And since I'm looking for a job, all the companies and recruiters want the resume in word format. [Lame,I know, but that's what they want]. And I don't yet trust ANY of the linux office apps to write a resume that won't come out screwy on some HR persons system.

Other than that, I almost always use Linux. I've got all the plugin stuff going with Crossover plugin [bought when I had $$ :)]

Although another annoying thing is the difficulty in setting certain things up. I don't use a 'user friendly' distro [I use SourceMage and Slackware] but even so, it is WAY too much of a pain in the ass to get printing set up in a way that will let EVERYTHING print properly...

Things like that are keeping me from going 100% linux.


Write some games. (1)

gurps_npc (621217) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680270)

So what we need is for some hot shot high end graphics game company to fully support Linux/Mac.

Office & Ease of Setup (2, Interesting)

Planesdragon (210349) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680272)

The biggest reason is, of course, Office--OpenOffice still doesn't handle emdashes, which means it's not worth the time to learn for me yet.

Ease of setup is the other big one--I don't want my computer to ever expect me to go into a command line to set something, and I don't have a desire to learn UNIX commands just to use my overgrown typewriter.

(That reminds me--gotta give Linux its fair chance this weekend, which means no writing in Windows for me... I'll post a journal to let y'all know if it works out bearably.)

Not me no way! (1, Redundant)

codepunk (167897) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680273)

I have three computers at work and another three at home and you will never ever find a microsoft product on any machine of mine...

Re:Not me no way! (1)

felix23 (625671) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680290)

Oh wow you're a l33t haxor now. pfff

Keeping me on MS (1)

LT4Ryan (178006) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680274)

I dual boot, so nothing really. I only boot into XP when I have coursework to complete...VB, or the constraint of having to use JBuilder for Java projects. I also use Office just for convieience and courtesy. The last thing I want to do when I give a large presentation is explain to a classroom of management majors why MS is evil :)

Since I have a PS2, games aren't really an issue, and the rest of my work/dabbling are done in FreeBSD!

that was me... (2)

matticus (93537) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680277)

I was one of the slashdot users who did use windows even thoough I knew linux and have been running it off and on for five years. I know, I know.
But in May I discovered Gentoo, and I haven't booted to my windows partition since then. Not even for games.

16:27:40 up 71 days, 51 min, 1 user, load average: 0.48, 0.38, 0.27

That's enough reason for me to stay in Linux. I don't think I'll go back. However, when Mandrake first came out, I thought the same way. Mandrake was fast current RedHat, and I liked that. But I got tired of it. Gentoo opened my eyes to what a Linux-From-Scratch type distribution could be like intended for those who don't have time for LFS.
My recommendation for those who want Linux but keep hanging on to Windows is find a distro you like. I did, and I'm very happy about it. Please try, because you will be happy too.

VPN Client (2)

rizzo (21697) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680278)

I use straight gentoo linux at work. At home however I'm on Windows 2000 because the MIS staff where I work is uses some Sidewinder firewall and they'll only support the Softnet VPN client. So I'm stuck on Windows for telecommuting. Of course the VPN works like crap anyway.

I suggested that they use the LEAF Project [leaf-project.org] firewall so I could use any number of open clients. Not mention that LEAF is free. My boss considered it, but then realized that our MIS staff is a bunch of jackanapes and that they needed to pay for support. I totally understood.

So if anyone knows better than I how to connect to the Sidewinder firewall from linux, feel free to let me know.

Also Medal of Honor and Battlefield 1942 keep me entertained.

Right On iBrother (1)

breaking_robots (602585) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680280)

The only time I use windows is at work... everywhere else I use Mac OS X.

X has kept me away from Linux (5, Insightful)

Headius (5562) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680282)

No matter how fast they make the drivers, no matter how much they optimize it - a client-server based desktop environment is ALWAYS going to be slower than a non-c/s solution. X continues to feel just a bit sluggardly on all my systems, even with the latest, fanciest drivers from whoever.

The second biggest problem I have with Linux is stability. Linux itself is a rock, but I have not used a single X app that hasn't crashed at least once. It's a dismal record. There's no accountability for bugs, so they're only fixed when someone feels like it. I've managed and worked on a few open source projects, and without corporate backing, guess what -- homework, real work, and personal preference come first. Unless you've got some really dedicated guys, shit doesn't get done.

I want Linux to succeed. I really do. I don't see how it's ever going to do it relying on X, and I don't see the desktop environments coming anywhere near more polished corporate-funded alternatives. Mac OS X is pretty, tight, simple, and as powerful as Linux, but I have to have a Mac to run it. Windows 2000 is vanilla, stable, boring, and runs on anything, but I don't LOVE using it. I would love for Linux to be a real alternative, but it simply isn't.

Ditch X and come up with a really solid desktop environment that doesn't require it, and I'll be back in a heartbeat.

A couple reasons (1)

Zed2K (313037) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680283)

In no particular order:

Games - duh
Ease of use - Linux is NOWHERE near ready for prime time, it takes too much to set it all up to be runable. Sure you can just install it and (if the install works) just use it, but it is not as simple as windows to setup.
Cost - just for the mac side though. I would love to run OSX but the cost for mac hardware is rediculous.
Opensource in general - sure there are some great apps out there that you can just download and either install or compile yourself, but I don't want to have to go out and hunt for what I need, the OS should come with everything I need or it should be extremely easy to find it.

Virus protection (5, Funny)

clem.dickey (102292) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680284)

Every so often a memo comes out reminding us that we must have the latest Norton Anti-Virus. NAV is not supported on Linux, so I have to power on the Windows box to update my virus protection. Except for that it stays off.

games and music editing (1)

funkmastermike (264946) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680287)

I use the less evil windows though: Windows 2000.

If it ain't broke... (2)

72beetle (177347) | more than 12 years ago | (#4680289)

...don't fix it. My win machines do what I need them to. When that's not the case anymore, maybe I'll do something about it, but until then, changing everything would just create more headaches than running with what I have.

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