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Working with ADHD?

Cliff posted more than 11 years ago | from the keeping-focus-on-the-career dept.

Education 1748

Famanoran asks: "I've recently been diagnosed ADHD ? and am now taking Ritalin. I've found that it helps me rather significantly, but I'm keen to try other things that may help. My question is to the ADHD'ers on slashdot: How have you coped with ADHD, and how have you found it affect your work performance? Do you object to having ADHD? Have you tried natural alternatives such as DPA/EPA (Omega3), 5-HTP (natural precursor to serotonin), and what were your results? Also - How do you find it working in groups of people, either as the only ADHD'er there, or in a group of ADHD'ers? Do you think that your ADHD contributes to your abilities technically, or is it a hinderance?" Previously, Ask Slashdot dealt with ADHD in children, now what suggestion do you have for the grown-ups, with the additional burden of a career, who find themselves in the same situation?

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Hmmm? (5, Funny)

Repugnant_Shit (263651) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229023)

I keep reading something about ADH...whatever. Oh look! String!


Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229080)

Thanks to braindead moderation, my karma went terrible today. Now look at this:

Slashdot only allows a user with your karma to post 2 times per day (more or less, depending on moderation). You've already shared your thoughts with us that many times. Take a breather, and come back and see us in 24 hours or so.

Kill Taco and his gay friends!


xombo (628858) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229127)

What is your user ID?

The Slashdot comedians come out (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229103)

Did you notice that like at least six of us Slashdot comedians all came out with the same joke in subtly different ways? Has Slashdot really turned into the latest comedy club open mic session? I daresay it has.

Re:The Slashdot comedians come out (0)

cscx (541332) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229123)

Ah, but what you don't realize it that I have a patent [uspto.gov] on the ADHD joke and I will now sue all your asses!

Re:Hmmm? (0, Offtopic)

Kircle (564389) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229153)

Who modded this as "offtopic"? Did that moderator even bother to find out what ADHD even means? Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. Hellooooo?

First... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229024)

...uhh shoot. What was I doing... Dang ADHD...

Well, it's hard to say. (0, Funny)

cliffy2000 (185461) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229026)

Being ADHD has made my very difficult and arduous in even doing the most simple of ta-- ooh! A butterfly! Whee!!!

basically, a duplicate of the first post (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229068)

but you get all the karma.

how fabulously lame.

Well (-1, Redundant)

cscx (541332) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229027)

I have found that the best solutiHEY LOOK A GUY ON A BICYCLE!!!!!!!1

where's the trolls? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229036)


I think you should know (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229045)

that I am on the shitter right now.

slashdot is an excellent laxative.

I know exactly where you are with this.. (2, Funny)

wackybrit (321117) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229047)

I just want to clear up some of the preconceptions of this awful mental problem so that we don't get 101 trolls and joke-masters scoring mod points.

Basically, ADHD stands for Attention Deficit and Hyperactivity Disorder.. oh my god, this is so boring, let's talk about Perl!! NO! NO! NO! Let's talk about Java!! Oh that's off topic, I gotta go program, no I gotta go eat, yes eat lots of stuff!

I'm getting so sick of sitting at this computer I'm gunna go and ta

Me too! (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229048)

I have it - diagnosed >10 years ago. STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM RITALIN! Tell the doctor you want Wellbutrin - it works better and has far fewer side effects. As far as working with it - good luck. If you are anything like me, good luck holding a job. I get bored quickly. This is necessarily a bad thing. I have very valuable skills and have no problems finding jobs.

Re:Me too! (4, Informative)

billatq (544019) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229093)

Tell the doctor you want Wellbutrin - it works better and has far fewer side effects.

It varies by person, as everyone has a different body chemistry. You might find yourself with uncontrollable shaking, cold sweats, loss of balance, and a number of annoying side effects if it doesn't work for you. (It didn't for me)

Medicines don't work (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229152)

I've found a potential solution that doesn't involve taking all these crazy medicines. When I find that I have difficulty concentrating, I just go off and furiously masturbate like a banshee. 5 minutes later I could concentrate on a Ben Stein law lecture.

Re:Me too! (1)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229216)

No, get as much ritalin as possible. It's a downer for kids, but in adults it's as good as methamphetamine. My old friend's girlfriend used to take her kid's ritalin all the time. I don't know what they sell for, probably $1-2 per pill.

Re:Me too! (1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229230)

ok, personal opinion here.

ADHD is yet another one of those unfounded diseases that seem to sweep the country every few years. a few years back it was carpal tunnel, everyone seemed to have it then and now there's only a few holding onto it. There's still no scientific proof to any of it that i've ever seen. I read about one of these country wide illnesses that hit in the 60's or 70's where apparantly everyone was low on sugar and would take sugar breaks. back in the 1900's it was "the vapors" basically gas from what i understand.

The amazing fact is (i read this in a psych book somewhere) there have been 0 diagnosed cases of ADHD in Europe.

Ok but first... (1, Flamebait)

eric2701 (231977) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229049)

Do you have trouble watching TV for an hour?
Do you have touble playing a videogame for an hour?

If not then maybe you don't have ADHD.

If you do in fact have trouble with these, I have found caffeine helps me concentrate.

Re:Ok but first... (3, Insightful)

cliffy2000 (185461) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229092)

You are most certainly incorrect, my friend. ADHD is a neurological disorder and those tasks do not require true concentration -- just a form of "zoning out." They are non-chemical stimulants, exactly what caffeine does chemically. In fact, Ritalin is very close to cocaine in chemical composition -- and is a stimulant, just like your proposed caffeine. So, I'm no doctor, but I certainly can offer something along the way of non-useless pseudo-advice.

Re:Ok but first... (1)

billatq (544019) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229133)

In fact, Ritalin is very close to cocaine in chemical composition

Actually, Ritalin is the chemical equivalent to "speed". It has the interesting effect of doing the exact opposite in normal people than it does in regular people. (I think the term is parodoxical reaction, but I could be wrong)

thus illustrating (1)

SweetAndSourJesus (555410) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229166)

the difference between normal people and regular people.

Re:Ok but first... (1)

rot26 (240034) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229191)

Ritalin is the chemical equivalent to "speed".

Ritalin is the chemical equivalent to speed in the same way that heroin is the chemical equivalent of "smack".

No, you're wrong. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229196)

I hate to break it to you, but you're both wrong. [erowid.org]

Re:Ok but first... (3, Insightful)

dalassa (204012) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229179)

Also ADHD is about a problem in regulation of attention. The ability to stop paying attention to something is just as hard for people with ADHD as paying attention.

Re:Ok but first... (1)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229243)

Isn't "ADHD" a "disorder" that only became a problem since we started requiring children to sit still for hours and hours during the middle of the day?

Kids won't sit still? Drug them! Problem solved! Anyone here a school nurse?

Re:Ok but first... (2, Insightful)

JustAGuyNamedStu (672827) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229097)

In the 70's there were experiements done that proved that Caffeine helps people with AD(H)D concentrate.. Having ADHD myself, I find that medication does not help me get my work done. I just force myself to sit down and get the stuff out of the way.

There's one proven way to minimize ADHD (0, Troll)

Cali Thalen (627449) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229050)

There's a great new (somewhat experimental) drug that's being used to treat ADHD. I've been using it for a few weeks now and


slashdot - part of the problem? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229051)

If you're ADHD, Slashdot is actually not all that helpful. after all, you can constantly refresh, find new comments to read, write comments, and ever hour or so there's a new story. first step if you're coping with ADHD? quit slashing.

Re:slashdot - part of the problem? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229121)

quit slashing.

But I'm an axe wielding psychopath, you insensitive clod!

Talking Back to Ritalin (1, Informative)

mr.henry (618818) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229052)

This page [antipsychiatry.org] has some interesting info on Ritalin and ADHD.

I tend to distrust... (5, Insightful)

Corvaith (538529) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229126)

...any site claiming to have 'information' on something when that site is specifically in place to try and scare people away from something (like, say, psychiatry).

Reliable info on psychiatric medications is unlikely to come from a group referring to itself as the Antipsychiatry Coalition. That is what is referred to as 'bias'.

Re:I tend to distrust... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229167)

Psychiatry is a racket for the Jews.

Do you object to having ADHD? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229054)

What kind of question is this? Do cancer patients objects to having cancer or AIDS patients object to have AIDS?

Re:Do you object to having ADHD? (1)

stephens_domain (679473) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229132)

I suspect the question would have been more accurately phrased "Do you object to being labeled ADHD?", but I could be wrong.

nuff said (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229056)


Re:nuff said (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229201)

Don't worry, I got it.

www.cchr.org [cchr.org]

learn to focus without drugs (1)

Barbarian (9467) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229057)

It's just a matter of learning to focus without drugs, I mean, if they'd had ADHD when I was a kid I'm sure I would have been diagnosed, but since I didn't take drugs for it I've just learned to focus by mental di

Hasn't really been a problem (4, Informative)

billatq (544019) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229064)

I haven't really had a problem with ADHD, even though I get distracted easily sometimes. I think coffee seems to help a lot, though that's just me. I never took ritalin, but I was on Adderall for a while (it's similar to ritalin, though not quite the same). I really disliked taking it though, because I felt really odd, lost my appetite and had frequent headaches. I honestly think that it's hyped to be a larger problem than it really is.

Existance of ADHD (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229066)

To this day there is no scientific proof of ADHD of which is primarily considered to be more of a behavioural disorder. This is rather sad as well that 80% of the time supposive ADHD is misdiagnosed as well when it's truely another coniditon all together and people are put on horrible medications such as Ritalin which is both addictive and extremely detrimental to your health. I would suggest checking with several other physicians if you haven't all ready and get more opinions.

Re:Existance of ADHD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229172)

It's not addictive...however it is a stimulant and two it is not detrimental to your health. What crack are you smoking

Re:Existance of ADHD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229197)

Please stop smoking a crack pipe, I've been on Dexamphentmine for that last 7 years, before this, I couldn't keep a job, now I can keep a job years on end, and do my job well, and get along with people for the most part. Stimulants make me tired. I'm fat, so no loss of appetite.

Suck it up. (0, Flamebait)

Phosphor3k (542747) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229070)

Its all in your head, quit whining.

Hey Frank: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229071)

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Focusyn (2, Funny)

maddskillz (207500) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229072)

I suggest Focusyn, but beware, side-effects include making you think Major League Baseball is watching your every move!

ianad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229073)

Ritalin is a kids drug. Adults with ADHD or whatever they're calling it should look into biofeedback. Doctors are too quick to provide the quick fix with drugs. I know a few people who went through the whole biofeedback process and are much better for it.

Why bother answering? (-1, Flamebait)

ziegast (168305) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229074)

Anyone with ADHD won't be patient enough to read the answers we post.

Karma: Whore (mostly due to picking easily-modded topics to reply).

..And just when you thought.. (0)

Deal-a-Neil (166508) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229075)

..that nobody could post something that could make you laugh on this topic, you're proven wrong in the first few posts.. you insensitiveHEY! THOSE WHEELS ARE WICKED!

ADHD? (0)

ElectricPoppy (679857) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229082)

Slashdotters? Surely you jest...

How many.... (1, Funny)

DigiBoi (139261) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229087)

...ADHD kids does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A: Wanna go outside and play?

it sucks (1)

b1gk1tty (670514) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229094)

do you know the sound that a house party makes when you just stand there for a moment. a dull road that contantly drones on...

yeah... it's kinda like that...

it sucks...

Well (5, Interesting)

afidel (530433) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229098)

I have found that ADHD makes me more creative than most people but that it also makes me a much poorer student, I had a half ride scholarship to one of the top comp sci schools in the country and was placed on academic probation in under a year despite having a 3.8 in my major, I found I just wasn't able to study for the classes that didn't hold my interest. The great thing is that my job really does hold my interest and so I am able to focus my manic energy towards getting stuff done, but the sepurfelous things like paperwork and stuff tend to fall by the wayside until my boss gets on me to get em done. As for coping with it I mostly have tried a balanced diet rich in dark vegtables and have tried to wein myself off of caffeine (I used to drink a 2 liter of Mt. Dew during an 8 hour shift).

Re:Well (2, Funny)

jpetts (208163) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229173)

and have tried to wein myself off of caffeine

Does that make you a weiner?

Re:Well (2, Informative)

GrendelT (252901) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229195)

yeah - i've found that i think so quickly, what seems like a lack of attention is my mind jumping from topic to topic and relating ideas that other might take a minute to catch up with to (you might have to explain your train-of-thought).
ADHD isn't a disorder, it's more of a type of personality, you might notice that computers (assuming you're a geek) or anything you enjoy can hold you attention with no problem. It's just the other stuff - stuff not of your choosing, may seem to bore you. In this boredom, you get "off-topic" and you begin to think about other topics.

I also agree, lots of sugar probably won't help your hyperactivity. Caffine tho, might. Since it acts as a mild-stimulant. Which is what Ritalin and Dexedrine are - stimulants. They "narrow" your focus, and allow you to concentrate.

Working with ADHD? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229105)

Posted by Cliff [mailto] on Tuesday June 17, @10:59PM
from the keeping-focus-on-the-career dept.

Famanoran asks: "I've recently been diagnosed ADHD? [everything2.com] and am now taking Hey, look! That dog has a big puffy tail!!! Hee hee hee! Here, Puff! Come here, boy!"

Medical Advice From Slashdot? (5, Funny)

Myriad (89793) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229107)

IANADr but I'd venture to say that getting medical advice from Slashdot would be about as wise as asking SCO for Legal advice.

Blockwars [blockwars.com] :go play!

Trouble waking up (1)

canadiangoose (606308) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229108)

I find that while I don't focus especially well at work, I do get by. The problem is at night when it is time to focus on sleep. Anything, and I mean anything is more entertaining/interesting than sleep. As a consequence, I have a very hard time waking up in the morning.

It sucks, though I'm sure I'm not alone here.

Re:Trouble waking up (1)

KRL (664739) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229215)

Interesting, I have the same problem. I can be tired, go to bed, and then stare at the ceiling for two hours before FINALLY going to sleep.

In the morning, you need to give me a good kick to get me out of bed.

Yikes... maybe I have ADHD!

Don't take the pills (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229109)

Don't take that medicine. It's been shown to shrink brains in the long term, and your "disease" can disappear and come back everytime you talk to a new doctor. The medicine tends to just make you do less of everything, kind of like a big slow down, instead of changing your behaviour which only you can do.

The fact is, your "disease" like most psychiatric frauds is merely a pattern of behaviour normal society doesn't like.

What society is telling you when you are told you have ADHD is: "Stop being a fucking asshole and pay attention to what people are doing around you and what they need you to do instead of constantly self-centeredly entertaining yourself with twaddle."

There is no anti-asshole medicine. If you go the Ritaline route you will just be a slower and dumber asshole.


It's OK Michael... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229110)

Recognition is the first step on the road to recovery.

At least it would explain your Past Behavour [sethf.com]

Well, just a thought... (1)

KentoNET (465732) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229112)

But I would think that the approaches are very much similar to the sequence of adaptation used for ADHD kids, minus a few tactics (thanks to maturity of age). Mainly means of focusing on a single item for a gradually increasing period of time.
A friend of mine had a brother who was ADHD and they had quite a few books relating to the ADHD topic. Unfortunately, none of them specifically targetted adults with the disorder. It's certainly due to receive some extra attention and research, IMHO.

Bad medicine (3, Insightful)

ahkbarr (259594) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229116)

ADHD is a often bad diagnosis. It's like saying "My kid is too kid-like." I'll explain...

I was diagnosed with ADHD as a child because I could not pay attention in class. The real issue was I had/have a hearing disorder that makes it very difficult for me to zero in on specific sounds and tune others out.

This bogus diagnosis led to improper treatment. Sure, the drugs helped, but the underlying problem was not addressed, and I did not reach my full potential.

Do not trust western medicine like it's never wrong.

Ya don't need it... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229117)

I had ADHD for my whole life. It was diagnosed when I was 14 (wee bit late I'd say). I was on Ritalin for about 6 months and decided I didn't need it. I have learned to cope with it and use it to my advantage (Hyperfocusing + Coding = Happy Employeers). Learn to use it, not control it.

my experience (1)

GrendelT (252901) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229118)

I did some reading and found that ADHD is linked to a lack of magnesium. So I looked in a nutrition guide to find some natural sources of magnesium (and what to avoid). I came to find out that rice and beans/grains will refresh your Mg. Vitamin D, like that of Vit.D milk, will 'wash away' some of your Mg. So, I avoid milk in the mornings, and drink a glass at night. I also tried Magnesium tablets for a while, this also seemed to help.
was it placebo? ...possibly. But those are my findings. I also have taken 5HTP, I didnt notice much affect - that and the cost of 5HTP compared to Mg tablets makes Mg tabs more acceptable.

So, I say look into your diet, it will take some time and hard-work to stay focused, but try to make your diet help you.
On the clinical side, I used to take Dexedrine, it definately helps, but that is also due to how potent it is. I didn't care for Ritalin much as a child, and dexedrine seems more 'controllable', with the side-effects being almost complete loss of appetite. So if you can work around that, you might ask your Dr. about Dexedrine.

...just remember there's no miracle drug to "fix" the issue, you have to try to stay focused, all of these aids are just that, aids, there to help you achieve a desired result.

hope that helps!

I have ADD. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229120)

I was diagnosed with ADD. SCO is suing IBM for $3 billion in computers that were remotely destroyed by a senator. DVDs are self-destructing robots and ICANN are shipping wireless LAN technology.

Ug... what was I talking about? Oh yes, and my karma is negative from getting "offtopic" mods.

Speaking from personal experience (2, Interesting)

rot26 (240034) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229122)

I was better when I could get Ritalin, but I can't find a doctor who will prescribe it any more. They're all afraid of lawsuits. (In Florida, anyway.)

Performance-wise, I'm sure I don't get nearly as much done on any single aspect of any one particular project, but the style I've adapted works for me: keep several projects going simultaneously and switch between them when you get bored or start to find your mind wandering.

I'm sure I'd make my employers happier if I could get the project-de-jour finished faster, but since what's important on any given day seems to be totally random anyway, in the long run, it hasn't seemed to cause any real problems. Meanwhile, I"ve learned to knit, ride a unicycle, and play the ukelele.

Ritalin in adults? (1, Insightful)

black mariah (654971) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229128)

I thought that after a certain age, Ritalin had the same effects as methamphetamine since that's what it is, basically. There's no damn way I would EVER feed myself pills to conform to someone else's idea of how I should act. Not Ritalin, not Prozac, none of this bullshit whose sole purpose is to make me act like a fucking robot. I'm a hyperactive little bastard. If I'm not doing something I like, then I get very agitated and don't want to do it. This is THE WAY THAT PEOPLE FUNCTION. This is not a disorder, this is simply acting the way you want to. Excuse me going off like this in what should be a fairly serious topic. There are people that actually do have disorders that prevent them from concentrating, etc, but at what point does the exception become the norm? Besides, who's worse off? Those that jump up and go running around the office shooting paperclips at each other because it seemed like fun, or those that never have done that and never will because the medications they're on supresses any urge to do anything ever.

I'll get off the soapbox now. :D

alternatives and cultural rant ahead... (5, Insightful)

deadsaijinx* (637410) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229129)

Hmm, well. As someone who's also been diagnosed with ADHD, I have found that the most effective treatment is just to get outside in the fresh air and get a bit of excersize every day. Of course, in our current culture of instant gratification and having both parents working, we have come to a point where parents aren't willing to take the time to find a better alternative than to drug their child. Personally it sickens me. I knew this one family that put their 5 y.o. child on Ritalin. I ask you, what 5y.o. isn't hyperactive? And what kind of parent drugs their 5 y.o. kid for being a bit rambuncious?

I myself only took Ritalin a few times, and I hated the way it affected me. As such, I don't take perscription drugs (not that I don't do other drugs, but that's another topic). No, for me the simplest thing to do was go outside and and run a few laps.

Okay, now for the history of ADHD. Recent studies beleive that ADHD was a genetic defect that prooved useful for attracting mates, as the higher levels of activity exhibited by the ADHD addled individual was a sign of better health and strength.

So, if the ADHD is getting in your way, then you should seek treatment. But a lot of people take Ritalin when it isn't neccesary. And watch out for dependencies. I knew a kid who no longer needed it, but he continued to take it because he claimed he could function without it. Ritalin is a mind altering drug, and people today don't give it enough respect.

Anyway, how many posts are we gonna get reffering to Focusyns from the Simpsons?

Read (5, Interesting)

Rick the Red (307103) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229136)

"Driven to Distraction" [drhallowell.com] by Dr. Edward Hallowell, M.D. I went to one of his lectures to learn how to help my son, who has ADHD, and learned that -- surprise! -- I have it, too. This book is a big help! Highly recommended.

Shame to you all! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229140)

You know all of these "jokes" about being distracted aren't funny. This is a guy asking for advice about a major problem in his life right now, and all you can say is "HEY LOOK A BUNNY." For shame! The best advice is to talk to your doctor.

qEEQ as an alternative to medication (1)

endeitzslash (570374) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229143)

Have you considered neurofeedback? Many of the "fringe" proponents make claims that smack of snake oil, but there is considerable evidence to support neurofeedback as a potential treatment for ADHD.

For example, there are some papers here. [eegspectrum.com]

ADHD - No such thing. (2, Interesting)

Hyperiongate (678811) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229144)

I was "diagnosed" with ADHD too, took Ritalin all through high school. Of course it helps you work harder, it's close to speed. Check this out: http://www.adhdfraud.com/

ADHD is a fake disorder (0)

pblanton (202488) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229146)

There is no such thing as ADHD. It is a catch-all diagnosis created to explain why children don't pay attention to the bullshit they're "taught" in their daily indoctrination centers.

Rage against the machine!

I'm thirsty.

Take the Red Pill... (1)

Foxxz (106642) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229147)

problem solved


Open-Brain Book (1)

SEWilco (27983) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229151)

You might be interested in "Healing ADD" [amazon.com] by Daniel G. Amen.

He used SPECT brain imaging to watch brain activity in his ADHD patients. He found six different types of ADHD brain activity patterns, and different behavior with them. It's a fascinating idea, actually monitoring the mental patterns and being able to see the results of various treatments.

ritalin for performance enhancement (1)

Splurk (576481) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229157)

I would be interested to hear from non-ADHD-afflicted people about their experiences using Ritalin to help increase concentration.

Dexedrine works the best for me... (2)

Menikmati3 (651417) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229159)

though it's got some rather questionable side-effects. I take it because most of the other medications such as Concerta (which is basically Ritalin), and Stratara simply don't work for me. I think that ADD/ADHD cases are really much more specific to the individual than most people realize. The medications are definitely something to look into though, because they can have a drastically positive effect. As for the "natural" options I've tried have had little, if any effect on me. I've found that more than anything, ADD gets in the way of accomplishing anything. So I would definitely call it a hinderance.

Grew Out of It (1)

Questioning (163996) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229171)

Mood disorders, such as bipolar 'disorder' and ADHD tend to dampen as people age. During my pre-teen years, I used to be the most wild person anyone knew. Come my teens, I simply outgrew it, had it almost overnight dry up. Still get hyper occasionally (something rather enjoyable, quite honestly), but it is relatively absent. This may happen at a later time for you, but expect it to happen over time.

My $600 experience (4, Interesting)

thebigmacd (545973) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229177)

My parents paid $600 CDN to be tested for admittance to an enriched high school program. The stupid guy made me click a stupid mouse for 15 minutes every time an X showed on the screen. He then diagnosed me with acute ADHD. I don't have ADHD. For my whole life I have been good at school, been able to sit still and concentrate on things for long periods of time, etc. Tried explaining to the guy that my arm fell asleep clicking the stupid mouse.

I also got nearly perfect on the Academy test itself.

That said, my parents ignored the diagnosis and I plugged right along with my straight 4.0 GPA. That's my experience with ADHD.

Oh ya, till grade 6 I did have trouble concentrating at school, but that because of the classroom being a riot of Ritalin-laced monsters. Went ot a private school for 7&8 and I got back on track for the rest of my learning career in public education.

Not to be a dick .... but ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229182)

what the fuck does this have to do with Slashdot?

Talk to your doctor (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229183)

Why would you come to /. looking for medical advice - that's absurd.

ADHD a thing of the 90s? (1)

Verity_Crux (523278) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229185)

So here are a few questions I have about ADHD, and I mean no offense; I just want to understand.

1. Did ADHD exist 100 years ago? Did people care 100 years ago?
2. What percentage of people are diagnosed with ADHD?
3. Is there different levels of ADHD? Different advancements? Different Types?
4. Would you say ADHD is over-diagnosed? In other words, I've met a number of people considered ADHD that I would consider perfectly normal.
5. Is ADHD chemical or psychological? Both? Is there a difference?
6. Don't take this wrong, but I admit I've never met ADHD from what I would consider good parents (i.e., teach their children how to work hard and focus long); so the question, how related is ADHD to broken homes, absent parenting, stifled creativity, abuse, general over-disciplen, or the so called spoiled brat situation?
7. I have heard before ADHD is related to stress and/or a lack of exercise on the part of the mother during pregnancy. Has either of these been in a study? Confirmed?

Hmmm... Well... (1)

schwap (191462) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229190)

I have found that working technical jobs (programming, sysadmin) is not compatible with my condition. I could take the drugs and be able to do it, but I don't think I want to. I have found that it is sometimes a blessing. I have problems concentrating, focusing, motivating, etc., but I am driven to find activities that help balance out the chemicals. Not possessing insurance means that roller coasters, sky diving, rock climing, near accidents, hard physical labor and such are a lot cheaper than the medication. It's a stuggle with or without the drugs.

It is very stressful and unhealthy to have ADD/ADHD and work in front of a computer. There is very little stimulation and, at least in me, reinforces the cycle that drains the energy to concentrate. Add incompetent manangement and you have something explosive. ADHD has taught me that there are more dignifying and enjoyable careers than programming, like scrubbing toilets and washing sidewalks.

Just get stoned... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229199)

Honestly, I'm quite a hyperactive person generally, but through a process of getting stoned every day over the last 12 years I'm now relatively 'normal'. I get stoned before work and then again in my lunch break to make sure I'm not chewing the carpet by the end of the day and it seems to work great.

Added bonus is that you stay thin (munchies are really only for the occassional stoner - the real stoner doesn't eat a lot) and the cough you develop keeps a mean six-pack. TV also tends to be a lot better this way.

Those are my suggestions and I urge you to try it.

Stop consuming sugar, caffeine and white flour (0, Troll)

irishkev (457679) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229202)

You won't hear that from your doctor, just, "Take more pills."

Establishment medicine, espcially psychiatry, is a total fraud.

Moderators beware casual trolling! (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229204)

Moderators, please refrain from spending all your points modding up every easy joke about ADHD to +5, Funny. Not only are you supporting misinformed stereotypes, you're also ignoring posts that might actually have some meaning.

I'd also ask you to overlook lengthy posts that ask "Do you really have ADHD or do you just play too many videogames?" People, lets assume, if only for this discussion, that the person asking does, in fact, have a real psychological problem, and really is helped by medication, and isn't lazy, or possessed by demons, or resistant to alien mind control, or any of the other oddball opinions that always come up.

MDBS (1)

wfrp01 (82831) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229205)

I'm not saying there's no such thing as ADHD, but remember this: ADHD is primarily a behavioural, not a physiological, diagnosis. Be careful in your dealings with doctors who's reputation and career may very well hinge on "helping" people with this problem. I'm not saying all mental health professionals are quacks, but our very sketchy knowlege of the mind allows these types of professions to harbor more than their fair share of kooks, quacks, and well-intentioned nebbishes.

Obligatory Simpsons reference (1)

Raul654 (453029) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229209)

Pharm. 2: I had a feeling that might happen. This carboxyl group sometimes causes problems. [indicates molecular model]

Homer: And we trusted you! [strangles model]

Marge: I think we should take him off the drug.

Pharm. 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! You can't just go off Focusyn.

Pharm. 2: But we can ease Bart onto one of its sister drugs, like chlorhexinol, and augment that with some phenolbutamine.

Pharm. 1: Hmm, and maybe some cyclobenzanone?

Pharm. 2: That's a great idea!

ADHD is one of many psychological disorders (2, Insightful)

silvaran (214334) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229210)

I'm going to reply to this because I don't have ADHD, rather I have a related disorder known as social anxiety, and I took interest to your mention of serotonin.

Serotonin is a chemical that is known to calm, and SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor) prevents the brain from storing serotonin (thus keeping it in circulation). I'm not sure about the chemical specifics of ritalin, but I suspect it relates to many of the other newfangled medications that are on the market. I use an SSRI to calm myself, to prevent anxiety. You may use it to calm yourself to prevent overactivity.

All psychological disorders are related, though each has the same symptoms, they have each to varying degrees. My advice to you would be to seek a second opinion, even if you are absolutely certain that this second opinion will yield the same result.

ADHD is overdiagnosed in children, but an adult is a different matter. I would advise you to continue the medication that works, and look towards alternative solutions while you're taking the medication. There is no shame in taking a pill every day, and therapeutic solutions will only strengthen your resolve to conquer your problem--even if you're forced to take a pill for the rest of your life.

Do you object to having ADHD

I object to having social anxiety as much as I object to having a thorn in my side. It's an obstacle to be overcome, and even if it can't be eliminated completely, it can be managed.

How do you find it working in groups of people, either as the only ADHD'er there, or in a group of ADHD'ers?

This is somewhat irrelevant to your problem. ADHD should affect you in virtually every aspect of life, regardless whether it's with a group of people or on your own. The key is to understand how your mind works, and to become so educated with respect to your subconscious thoughts that you can control them with exercises and manage them as they come. A relatively new therapeutic study deals with cognitive thinking, in that you can catch thoughts [that cause feelings] as they occur, and eventually eliminate them. These thoughts might cause you to become hyperactive (hence the 'H' in ADHD), and you really have to focus on your internal thoughts more than the results on the environment around you.

I doubt that this advice will help you directly, but I admire your resolve in openly announcing your mental difficulties. Watching TV, I'm sure you'll notice more and more commercials regarding mental illness and the fact that it isn't extraordinary, rather it's a common problem that affects everyone, from every walk of life. My final suggestion would be to seek therapy. There's no shame in talking to someone about this, as much as there's any shame in taking medication for it. I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors.

No sympathy here... (1, Troll)

Superfreaker (581067) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229213)

'Begin rant

ADHD is dumb and drugs like Ritalin are extremely bad.

(pause for troll)

I exhibited all of the symptoms of a child with adhd while growing up, and even got tested during college by a psychiatrist. The diagnosis, I had add and adhd and received a prescription for 10 MB quick and slow release Ritalin.

After taking the first few pills, I would say that is one of the worst drugs ever. I am abhored by parents giving small children even small dosages of this drug. I makes you speedy and you crash hard, increasing the need for the drug.

The tests they give you for this drug are ridiculous. Like "do you doodle during class?" and "Do you speed often while driving?". I was a freshman in college, of course I did!

I simply became more organized and was able to perform well in an Ivy league school. Of course, taking up coffee didn't hurt.

I can see in adults you may see a benefit, but giving them to children is insane. Plain and simple. I doubt anyone will argue with the dramatic effects of this drug.

'End rant

All distracted comments aside... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229214)

While not diagnosed with ADD or ADHD (just never talked to a doctor about it I suppose) I have found that lack of the ability to concentrate has frustrated me and in many cases embarassed me. Such as starting sentences and forgetting completely what I was talking about as I've started to think about something else. I've done this with my boss many times, and it's rather frustrating. Also I try and keep from comminicating in meetings and the like as it's hard telling if I'll communicate anything at all...

Well anyway, as for solutions, I find myself using caffine to maintain concentration and keep me on task. Sometimes just coffee, sometimes heavier stuff like espresso and americanas. The problem with the latter is that while my concentration for tasks such as programming and research is great (read:solo tasks), anything where I would have to communicate is sorta funny (read I tend to ramble a lot in that caffinated sort of way)...

I too would be really interested to hear of other's experience with natural alternatives as I'm not so sure I want to go the ritilin route yet.

ok, my head hurts, back to tasks for the less concentrated...

The Answer to Everything is Video Games (1)

baneblackblade (682424) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229217)

I was diagnosed with ADHD in like second grade or something, and the first thing I ever focused on at all (up to that point in my life anyway) was The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past. Games cured me of ADHD. I don't know if it'll work for everyone, but I have no need of Ritalin or the myriads of other supposed cures.

What I've found helpful... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229220)

...is cocaine.

It's (sniff) fucking GREAT!!! You can keep going for hours and hours and focus on one thing and not leave that focus and just get your shit done hey this shit is GREAT!!!

Extra Boost (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229224)

ADHA what's that?.. I've always used ritalin for that extra boost during coding crunch times..

Better than ritalin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229225)

have you tried methamphetamines?

What to take, what not to take (1)

Iscariot_ (166362) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229227)

If you have ADHD, as I do, I've found that (suprisingly) caffine helps to slow me down. Yes. Caffine. Coffee is what you want tho, not something with sugar. Sugar definitely enhances the effects of ADHD.

Another suggestion, this time about medication, is what to take... and what not to. Before you go for the generic Ritalin, try Cylert. I found it to be side effect free which is diffinitely a good thing. Whatever you take, DO NOT take Adderall!! It is bad! It is highly addictive, kills your heart like cocain, and in my opinion creates more problems that it solves.

I hope that helps.

BULLSHIT (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229232)

ADHD my ass. Maybe just keeping your mind on what you should be doing would help.

It's amazing that every fuckwad who can't pay attention to what's going on around them now has a "disease" rather than just being a jerkoff.

I'm sure that in the near future people will be able to talk on cell phones constantly because of their Adult Separation, Super-Human Anxiety Traits. ASSHATs.

No Focus - Long Term Goals... (2, Informative)

Red Storm (4772) | more than 11 years ago | (#6229237)

A friend of mine suggested I try one of his Rittalin pills after he was diagnosed with ADD. What happened, I ended up cleaning a bathroom for 3 hours, hell you could eat off the floor when I was done. Why is this an interesting anecdote? I could barely keep dishes clean to eat, let alone clean my bathroom. Needless to say I felt it warented research. I also ended up getting a diagnosis for Adult ADD Inatentive Subtype, in other words, I can't focus and I'm not hyperactive.

Three years later I finaly got sick and tired of the way my life was going. I could barely finish classes at school, and life just SUCKED in general. I had started and stopped treatments in the past and had mixed results. I decided to start a treatment with Adderall and stick to it. That was almost a year ago. Since then I have changed my major from CS to Medical and I have gone from a 2.0 GPA to a 3.6 with straight A's for the last two semesters.

For me treatment has worked, however there is no one treatment for everyone. I recomend you do your research, learn as much as you can about ADD. Listen to what your gut instinct is telling you, it may not be right but it probably knows the best direction for you. Lastly drug treatment is not the solution! For me it was the key that unlocked my concentration and thus made me do better in school which in turn has helped improve my mood and life outlook.

Good Luck to anyone in a similar situation.

ADHD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229240)

ADHD is bunk - get more exercise and try not to
obsess about self so much

educate yourself on the FMLA act (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6229244)

I've got excellent karma, but am posting this as AC to preserve some privacy. I've been working with biploar disorder for years now. Some of the same symptoms as ADHD are evident in certain instances of biploar episodes so I understand what you are going through. I also understand what you are going through on a stimulant based medication. I've been through tons of meds, Adderall included which is basically legal meth from the drug store. Addreall and Ritilin can create some nasty side effects such as teeth grinding, paranoia, delusions and psychosis (ask me how i know :)). Be very careful with these drugs, and remember that they are easy targets for abuse, and if you abuse them, you will end up exactly like the typical speed freak.

Regarding working with a mental disability, sometimes you are just as capable as a normal person, sometimes more, and sometimes waay less. I've had long periods where I have been unable to work unfortunately, but fortunately we have the Family and Medical Leave act in the US which allows for up to 12 weeks of unpaid job protected leave if necessary. Read more about it here: http://www.dol.gov/elaws/fmla.htm [dol.gov] . Hopefully you won't have to use it, but it is a nice safety net to have if you really need it at times.

best of luck with your condition. As one with a mental disability, I know that it can be a long frustrating road out of hell and a rocky one on the way, but there is hope, and many medications that can help.

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