Good Deep-Knowledge Analog Design Books? 65
NorthNitro writes "I live in a part of the world where quality technical books are not accessible from local distributors. When I order, from international distributors, I have to keep exchange rate and shipping costs in mind; so I really need to be careful with my choices when purchasing books. I am a graduate engineer (5 years experience) that focuses on analog and digital hardware design. Next year I will be starting a complicated analog design project. This design will include circuits that integrating Pico amp currents, a lot of discrete transistor circuits and high precision op-amp circuits. I don't want a cookbook; I rather want something that can provide me with solid theoretical descriptions/models of circuits. The kind of knowledge that gives you deep understanding of analog circuits design. Can anyone suggest good books and maybe where to order them from?"
DOES NOT COMPUTE! (Score:3, Funny)
Good Deep-Knowledge Analog Design Books?
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Sounds like system design (Score:2)
a couple of suggestions (Score:5, Informative)
If you don't have Horowitz and Hill (The Art Of Electronics), you need it. It's surprisingly in depth for something that is ostensibly a primer, and covers useful techniques in many areas of the field, including micropower circuitry.
Other than that, I'm afraid that much of the information you want lies on the cutting edge of the field, and therefore industry is the best resource: datasheets, white papers, etc. You might also browse Artech House, which has a well-deserved reputation for publishing useful, if esoteric, technical books.
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Seconded.
My first thought was that it may be below him, but I've 9 years in the industry and still peek at it time to time.
He can have my copy 50% off (all pages present, very *very* warn) and I'll go pick up a new one...
-nB
A bit general (Score:2)
Without more info its hard to give a good pointer. If you know the basics getting an IEEE account and searching for papers there is really the best approach. If your looking for a good general text I don't think you can go wrong with
CMOS Circuit Design, Layout, and Simulation, Second Edition (Hardcover)
by R. Jacob Baker (Author)
Best general Analog text book I've read.
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I'll second that. I graduated from Boise State University, where Jake Baker teaches. I was lucky enough to take a few classes from him before he became chair of the EE department. He's a hell of a professor and wrote some very good books. Appropo to nothing, he was in the Marines - the GI bill paid for his undergrad degree. You can definitely tell when you're around him.
The Art of Electronics (Score:4, Informative)
With 5 years of experience you may well be familiar with it, but if not (and for anyone else)
The Art of Electronics [amazon.com]
by Horowitz and Hill was always the classic practical analog electronics text.
Re:The Art of Electronics (Score:4, Funny)
"I don't want a cookbook" is a code phrase that means, "I don't want to buy _The Art of Electronics_".
Gray and Meyer, Razavi (Score:1, Informative)
The standard texts in analog design are:
* Gray, Hurst, Lewis, and Meyer - Analysis and Design of Analog Integrated Circuits (http://tinyurl.com/6pk45f)
* Razavi - Design of Analog CMOS Integrated Circuits (http://tinyurl.com/66wzgt)
If you know more specifics about what you'll be designing (e.g., RF, very low power, ADC, filters, etc.) you can find more specific references for each area I'm sure. As for where to buy them, half.com is a great place to buy cheap books (e.g., international edition of Razavi will
Power Systems (Score:1)
Here is one (Score:2)
I found Analysis and Design of Analog Integrated Circuits [amazon.com] (Gray/Hurst/Lewis/Meyer) to be a good book on deep-down transistor electronics. It is very theoretical, as you are looking for, and will support a strong understanding of analog transistor circuits.
I bought the "developing country" paperback edition for a lot less than $115 or whatever Amazon wants for the hardcover. Not a word is different.
Analog Integrated Circuits (Score:4, Informative)
by Behzad Razavi
http://www.amazon.com/Design-Analog-CMOS-Integrated-Circuits/dp/0072380322 [amazon.com]
Analysis and Design of Analog Integrated Circuits
by by Paul R. Gray, Paul J. Hurst, Stephen H. Lewis, Robert G. Meyer
http://www.amazon.com/Analysis-Design-Analog-Integrated-Circuits/dp/0471321680 [amazon.com]
Analog Integrated Circuit Design
by David Johns, Ken Martin
http://www.amazon.com/Analog-Integrated-Circuit-Design-David/dp/0471144487 [amazon.com]
I have these three books. They're all for integrated circuit design, but they definitely give an in-depth coverage of analog design. They're pretty heavy in terms of material. You might be looking for something a bit broader in scope.
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Definitely 3 of the books I'd recommend. As per another poster, if you don't have a solid base book like Sedra and Smith, look for it. Millman and Halkias is dated, but still relevant IMHO. The new edition is probably what you want, but I've not yet seen it.
http://highered.mcgraw-hill.com/sites/0070634556/information_center_view0/ [mcgraw-hill.com]
Don't overlook noise. I started with Howard Johnson's "Black Magic" book, but there are definitely better books out there. For exampele,
http://www.amazon.com/High-Speed-Circuit-Int [amazon.com]
To everyone who thinks H & H is a good book (Score:5, Informative)
I will agree with one poster who suggested Grey, Hurst, Meyer, and Lewis called "Analysis and Design of Analog Integrated Circuits" (and I own), with the disclaimer that it is geared for IC design. With that said, it does a good job of teaching analog circuits.
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As one of the people who suggested H&H, I didn't do it 'to sound knowledgeable', but because I do consider it a useful book for practical analog design. Also I don't think of it as a cookbook, I always thought it too vague for what I would consider 'a cookbook' (i.e. a book of recipes to follow), but that is perhaps a matter of taste.
Still, you may be right that it is not an EE book, I'm a physicist and admittedly haven't had to do electronics design for years now. I'm sure Grey et al. is also a good bo
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I think that, while you are right in your criticisms, it is still a useful book to have on the shelf. I still refer to mine now and then, though admittedly less so each passing year.
-nB
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But I'd agree, it sounds like the original questioner knows about H&H (whether he
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Some favorites on my shelf (Score:5, Informative)
Jim Williams' first book [amazon.com]
Jim Williams' second book [amazon.com]
Bob Pease's book [amazon.com]
Hans Camenzind's book [amazon.com] (an especially-cool book by the designer of the original 555)
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Analog Circuit Design - Williams, 1991 (Score:1, Interesting)
Analog Circuit Design - Art, Science and Personalities (Williams, 1991)
http://www.amazon.com/Analog-Circuit-Design-Personalities-Engineers/dp/0750696400/
A great book for getting more insight on designing real systems - light on analysis (Amazon lists a companion book with more technical stuff - haven't read that one) but shows some of the real-world problems faced by designers. The chapter on Digiphase may be particularly interesting, as it is a high-precision system (in frequency, rather than current) with
More detail would be useful (Score:3, Interesting)
I think more detail would help recommendations. I don't have a copy of H&H, but a good number of folk I know like it. I have a copy of Gray and Meyer, which I use a lot (but my copy is 30 years old, I imagine it has had a lot added to it). I'm very fond of Operational Amplifiers by J.K. Roberge. It is not in print, but there are used copies out there. I'm not aware of any really excellent books on discrete transistor level analog design.
You didn't mention this, but there is a really good (i.e. practical) book on grounding and shielding:
Grounding and Shielding Techniques in Instrumentation by Ralph Morrison
I strongly recommend spending as much time at the bench as you can, building and measuring your circuits. If you want to get good at it, hands-on experience is crucial.
Steve
Essential digital book that covers analog effects. (Score:1, Insightful)
High Speed Digital Design: A Handbook of Black Magic (Hardcover) by Howard Johnson, Martin Graham
Check Analog Devices literature (Score:2, Interesting)
Analog Devices has compendiums of appnotes and tutorials. I'm looking at the following on my shelf:
Systems Application Guide
OpAmp Applications Seminar
Power and Thermal Management
The Best of Analog Dialog 67' to 91'
Ask The Apllications Engineer
Natsemi's Analog Signal Path Design Seminar
GHLM is a good textbook but contains nothing on actual implementation.
Microelectronic Circuit Design (Score:1)
Here's my suggestion (Score:4, Informative)
Analog Integrated Circuit Applications [amazon.com]
Prof. Jacob is wonderfully knowledgeable on the subject, and his teaching style is easy to follow. Additionally, his book covers a lot more than just the ICs in the title.
Sergio Franco's op-amp book is great (Score:1, Informative)
"Design with Operational Amplifiers and Analog Integrated Circuits"
There's a preview on his site:
http://online.sfsu.edu/~sfranco/Books.html
Book I use (Score:4, Informative)
From Montana State: (Score:1)
Answer from Analog Engineeer (Score:1, Informative)
Most of the books mentioned so far are better for HAM radio fanatics. As an Analog Engineer, here are my favorite books:
'Analysis and Design of Analog Integrated Circuits' Gray, Hurst
This is one of the best well-rounded books and is a must-have for any analog engineer.
Based on the description, I assume you're not working in CMOS, but if you are: 'CMOS Analog Circuit Design' Allen, Holberg
Another book I use on occasion is 'Analog Integrated Circuit Design' Johns, Martin
This is an OK book, but I prefer Gray,
Tieze and Schenk (Score:2)
"Electronic Circuits: Handbook for Design and Application". The original is german and very good. It does not cover really, really exotic things, but for basic and deeper concepts it is the reference. It has a strong focus of telling you what is important and what not, providind theoretical models for everything and even listing sample ICs and commenting on them. It is possible that it is still to basic for your needs, but there may not be a book that really covers what you need.
Data Books. (Score:1)
Head on over to Motorola, and get a set of databooks. Head on over to Analog Devices pick up a set of databooks. Head on over to (insert your favorite company) pick up a set of databooks. Head on down to your local sunday market, hang around the electronics types, look through their boxes, and buy up all their databooks. Head on down to used bookstores, buy up their used databooks.
Repeat.
Repeat.
Before you know it you'll not only know Analog, you'll know digital, power, discrete, mosfet, thermisters, instr
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I also forgot ya need some fundamentals.
Grob
Malvino
Floyd
Bob Pease (Score:3, Informative)
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I was wondering when someone would get around to mentioning Bob Pease. He used to do a column in the old McGraw-Hill 'Electronics' IIRC. This man understand analog better than almost anyone on the planet. If his columns have ever been compiled into a book, or he has written a book on Analog, that would be easily the most worn book on my shelves here. He was for many years, THE analog guru at National Semi. Hit your bookstore and have them do a search for his name. Something useful and entertaining has
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All we are saying is give Pease a chance.
some suggestions (Score:1)
"Noise Reduction Techniques in Electronic Systems" by Henry Ott.
I've heard "Transistor Circuit Approximations" by Malvino is good. I don't have it, but I liked his style in some other books.
I've also heard the "GE transistor handbook" from days of yore has good stuff in it.
(Searching on that gave a link to an e-bay auction of 8 dvds of scanned old books, which looked like a treasure trove of good stuff. not my auction, no connection to it)
I would second a thumbs up for "Handbook of Digital Black Magic" by
Some Good PDF Op-Amp References (Score:1)
Last year I did a course "Electronic Measurement" at USQ which dealt a lot with EMC compatability, PCB layout, noise resistance, etc - a lot of really non-obvious stuff until you read it.
From this I've ended up with bundle of very enlightning PDFs, some of which I'll list below. I'm not sure if these are what you are looking for, but they certainly match your price range. I recommend anyone every using an op-amp read at least the first one, which I found quite amazing - for illustrating the different retur
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I agree, it'd be a good idea to have all of those app notes in one place. You might zip them up into one archive file and upload it to the "Manuals" link at http://www.ko4bb.com/ [ko4bb.com] . (Various people have been stashing EPROM images, useful emails, spreadsheets, and other resources in that directory, not just manuals.)
ARRL Handbook (Score:1)
I always found the ARRL Handbooks to be great refreshers for electronic theory. Although the intended audience is obviously the amateur radio community, these books are a great resource for anyone interested in electronics. Save some money and don't buy the latest greatest edition.
ARRL Handbook [amazon.com]
Perhaps Check Online College Course Materials (Score:1)
Cookbooks can be trouble because without insight into the advantages and vulnerabilities of a circuit, it might simply fail.
In radio frequency work, we often added variable attenuators in the signal path, to allow tuning. To know the attenuator range though, required creating a spreadsheet to track worst case signal levels forward and backward to the attenuators.
"The kind of knowledge that gives you deep understanding of analog circuits design. Can anyone suggest good books and maybe where to order them fro