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Ask Slashdot: Best Anti-Virus Software In 2015? Free Or Paid? 467

CryoKeen writes: I got a new laptop recently after trading in my old laptop for store credit. While I was waiting to check out, the sales guy just handed me some random antivirus software (Trend Micro) that was included with the purchase. I don't think he or I realized at the time that the CD/DVD he gave me would not work because my new laptop does not have a CD/DVD player.

Anyway, it got me wondering whether I should use it or not. Would I be better off downloading something like Avast or Malwarebytes? Is there one piece of antivirus software that's significantly better than the others? Are any of the paid options worthwhile, or should I just stick to the free versions? What security software would you recommend in addition to anti-virus?
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  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 23, 2015 @07:36PM (#48889413)

    Because I'm assuming that will be an answer.

    You can fill in any particular OS as an alternative.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 23, 2015 @07:41PM (#48889467)

      Wipe the disk and run linux

    • by cbiltcliffe ( 186293 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @07:45PM (#48889515) Homepage Journal

      That would be "in before somebody says 'don't run Windows'".

      Having said that, I've run Windows (among other things) for years, and haven't run anti-virus in over a decade for two reasons:
      - it's more trouble than it's worth when you know what you're doing,
      - it's hard to do any kind of virus research at all when you've got antivirus trying to delete every infected file you're examining.

      In the time I've not run a/v, I've never had an infection. (I never had an infection before that, either, but that's beside the point.)
      I use Comodo Endpoint Security on the kids' computer, and the HTPC, but my main Windows desktop hasn't had it for years, and won't have it for the foreseeable future, either.

      All my Linux machines, of course, don't run anything, except for my mail server, which has ClamAV on it, just to scan attachments.

      • All my Linux machines, of course, don't run anything.

        Don't worry, I have it on good authority that next year will be the Year of Desktop Linux, and then all those apps will appear and you'll have things to run on your Linux machine.

      • In the time I've not run a/v, I've never had an infection. (I never had an infection before that, either, but that's beside the point.)

        That you know of. There have been many documented cases of drive-by installs, worms that infect from external media, infected installers from legitimate installers. Hell, even legitimate open source projects having their servers unknowingly hijacked and malware injected into source or binaries during download.

        While some malware is geared at spamming your desktop with ads, the good stuff tries to be as unnoticeable as possible, especially for botnets or if the goal is keylogging. Today's sophisticated viruses aren't trying to wipe your machine - they're all about creating networks of vulnerability to sell later to the highest bidder.

      • by vux984 ( 928602 )

        - it's hard to do any kind of virus research at all when you've got antivirus trying to delete every infected file you're examining.

        What kind of special flower does "virus research" on their "main" computer that they use for ANY thing else? I don't even look at them on a NETWORK that has access to anything else.

        I agree that a/v products value is dubious at best. But good god man... your basically telling us the equivalent of "I don't bother with brakes in my daily commuter car because I like to study car wr

        • You don't need no brakes on your car to study what happens to some other guy when they crash their car.

          Similarly, I don't need antivirus on my computer to reverse engineer the infected files I pulled from a client machine; which, incidentally, their antivirus said was clean, and I found them manually. (But wait! How did you find them without the antivirus telling you that they were infected?! That's unpossible!!! <head explodes>)

  • If nothing else (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TheRealMindChild ( 743925 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @07:39PM (#48889443) Homepage Journal
    AVG is a Freemium minefield. May as well be WeatherBug. Serves a purpose, but ultimately adware
    • Agreed. I'm actually an AVG reseller for many years. I always loved them when they just stuck to what they were good at, which was solid, lightweight antivirus protection (they held out longer than most). I guess it's inevitable that they will get dollar signs in their eyes and try to produce and sell everything else under the sun (PC Tune-up, Web Tune-up, Internet Security, Anti-Spam, Firewall, blah blah blah).. Ever since they did that, their core Antivirus offering got pushed aside and now they sell adwa

    • Re:If nothing else (Score:5, Informative)

      by dszd0g ( 127522 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @07:53PM (#48889611) Homepage

      Even the paid version of AVG now spams pop-up advertisements. Definitely do not go with that.

      I tend to use AV comparatives as one place to compare how anti-virus products are stacking up:
      http://www.av-comparatives.org... [av-comparatives.org]

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by Virtucon ( 127420 )

        One of the main reasons i got rid of BitDefender. They started popping shit up on your screen even though I had a paid version. Fuck that.

  • No need (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 23, 2015 @07:40PM (#48889463)

    Windows? Use Security Essentials and practice safe surfing. No need for anything else.

    • Windows? Use Security Essentials and practice safe surfing. No need for anything else.

      This.

      • by rwa2 ( 4391 ) *

        For personal use?
        You don't need an anti-virus program. It's a racket. Use the built-in protections for your OS, and learn some common sense. If you do something that gets you infected, wipe and reload your OS, and DON'T DO THAT AGAIN. Once you have a trimmed group of common, trusted applications and games and settings, you'll be cruising fine. You'll more likely be wiping and reloading your OS due to hardware failures every few years than from virus attacks. Notice that you will need to make backups a

    • EMET (also from MS) is free and effective at preventing many 0-day vulnerabilities.

    • by bogie ( 31020 )

      Security Essentials is worthless. It used to be decent years ago but is one of the poorer performing Antivirus products now. For Free Panda is supposed to perform well. Really anything but MSSE is a good idea, regardless of how safe you surf. Just because you only visit "safe" sites doesn't mean malware isn't being handed out via some drive by advert.

  • Nag, nag, nag, nag (Score:3, Informative)

    by Iamthecheese ( 1264298 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @07:43PM (#48889485)
    I've found only one free antivirus where the nag screens can be turned off and stay off. Panda [pandasecurity.com] has treated me right so far and if things keep going this way I'm going to buy the premium version just to support the company. It's efficient, effective, and -- most importantly -- silent.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    The Best AV for Windows is Microsoft Security essentials which is available for Free from Microsoft for private use. Make sure your OS and apps are not left without security updates. Use Secunia PSI or alternatively Qualys browser check both free for private use. One last thing, don't use an account with admin privileges but one that has limited rights, so if your box gets pwned the attackerhas to escalate privileges before he or she can run as admin/root.

  • by LuniticusTheSane ( 1195389 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @07:43PM (#48889501)
    If you are on Windows 8.1, Windows Defender. If on Windows 7, MS Security Essentials. And supplement both with Malwarebytes. All free, and very non-intrusive.
    • Yep, this is the combo I used. Never had a problem with it. (Actually, had one malware problem before I added Malwarebytes, but used that to remove it and have had it installed ever since.) ..bruce..

    • by BenJeremy ( 181303 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @08:29PM (#48889857)

      Non-intrusive... and ineffective. I just cleaned up my brother-in-law's machine and that was what he was using.

      My preferred approach is to use Avira Free (installed with ninite.com), MalwareBytes, HiJackThis, and the no-ads hosts file from mvps.

      Secondary, install Google Chrome with adblock and a good no-script type program (though I personally just use Ghostery with AdBlock)

      If treating for malware, bleepingcomputer is the site to go to. Run RKill, followed by ComboFix, ADWCleaner, and TDSSKiller.

      This takes care of 99% of the issues, assuming you don't HAVE to continually visit some obscure Russian porn sites.

    • MBAM's realtime shit isn't free.
      So it doesn't help until you know you've been hit.

    • Malware Bytes? Yes.... Great product that really is pretty effective (especially if you can boot into "safe mode" in Windows first) at cleaning up malware.

      But Windows Defender? Absolutely not. It got ranked absolute worst at detecting malware in a head to head test last year vs. something like 40 other products on the market! And just from personal experience trying to keep PCs clean in an office setting with a lot of mobile workers? It didn't even trigger on some heavily infected machines.

      Personally, we u

    • I'm interested in anything anyone has to say about Malwarebytes. [malwarebytes.org]
  • who the hell takes trade-in laptops?

  • by idontgno ( 624372 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @07:44PM (#48889511) Journal

    I thought the included (pre-installed) Microsoft Windows Defender (or Windows Security Essentials) was already good enough.

    That, plus not installing every stupid piece of malware-studded "freeware" I come across and being a bit conservative in my browsing, has always been enough since Windows 7.

    Windows after 7 also has a built-in software firewall, so wouldn't seem like you'd need one of those either.

    I just can't picture needing anything beyond that.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      I thought the included (pre-installed) Microsoft Windows Defender (or Windows Security Essentials) was already good enough.

      Microsoft is rather notorious for not releasing information about known bugs or malware until they damned well please. That means until then, it doesn't get added to Security Essential or Windows Defender until such time, even if the security community knew about it for 2 years.

      While 3rd-party solutions can be problematic, as others have mentioned, at the same time they are likely to update their lists of malware considerably faster than Microsoft in many cases.

    • by nuckfuts ( 690967 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @08:05PM (#48889699)

      I just can't picture needing anything beyond that.

      While technically not an "antivirus" product in the conventional sense, Microsoft's Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit [microsoft.com] adds a significant layer of defense on top of Windows.

    • I thought the included (pre-installed) Microsoft Windows Defender (or Windows Security Essentials) was already good enough.

      Yeah, it pretty much is. The reason to go with something else, or in addition, is largely if you're in a business setting and you want to be able to push updates and monitor results. Also, I'm not sure about the current situation, but last I checked, MSE was free for personal use but not licensed for business use...?

      But for home use, MSE is probably good enough. It also doesn't have popups, it doesn't break any apps or anything in the OS, and it doesn't take up tons of system resources. Ultimately, wit

  • However it depends on how recent it is and how complete a solution it provides. I've used it in the Enterprise IT arena in the past (I've been in enterprise IT for a couple of decades now) and it worked well, both on servers and desktops. Last year though when I purchased a new laptop (my first Windows laptop in years) I looked around for a while and settled on Norton 360. I thought it provided the most complete solution, had decent reviews and I got it at a steal of a price - something like $20 on Amazon a

  • You are not going to find anyyhing that does it all the best. You also cannot run more than one antivirus at a time. Well, you can but i will make hou wish you never thought of the idea. And no- malware bytes is not an antivirus.

    You would be better served learning safe habbits and monitoring tech sites dealing with infections while not expecting a best product. Do this anyways if someone convinces you thay there is a best.

  • by enter to exit ( 1049190 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @07:57PM (#48889641)
    Nowadays i use Microsoft's free AV, a decent browser and discretion. Unless you're particularly haphazard (like downloading random files with full Admin privileges and visiting dodgy sites with unpatched IE) that should be enough. You don't really need a full arsenal of anti-malware software anymore. Ms has tightened things up a fair bit over the last years.

    A while back i tried NOD32 and was very impressed. I don't know if it's still good.
  • My Experience (Score:4, Insightful)

    by MightyDrunken ( 1171335 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @08:00PM (#48889669)
    I have tried a few paid options and a number of free antivirus. Nothing as yet has convinced me to use a paid option.
    For Windows 8 there is no need as Microsoft Security Essentials, renamed Windows Defender, is good enough. Otherwise I use Avast, which seems to work well and comes with a few handy options like a software updater and the option to run a scan at boot time. Though it can be annoying recently as it reminds you of other paid features like VPN tunnels.

    Steer clear of Norton for God's sake, it seems as bad as the disease itself. I dislike Symentec and had problems in the past with AVG. A few years back an update prevented browsers from accessing the internet.

    If you think you may be infected try running a scan of the free version of Malwarebytes, it gives a good second opinion and is great at cleaning up some infections.
  • by dwywit ( 1109409 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @08:01PM (#48889681)

    I used to use AVG until it became bloatware, then I tried Avira and it seemed to suffer stability problems, switched to Avast which was OK and didn't seem to slow things down, and then removed that when I realised how much FUD the antivirus industry uses to sell its products, and how piss-poor their products are at doing their job.

    I've seen malware infections - from trivial all the way up to cryptolocker - manage to get past the "big 3" (norton/symantec, McAfee, and Trend Micro), and AVG. The only products who seem to be stable and maintain a small-ish footprint are Eset and Kaspersky.

    I leave Windows defender switched on, scan once every few months with free malwarebytes, keep Cryptoprevent updated, and anything else I can remove with Combofix - not that I've had anything in over 2 years, but Combofix is what I use to repair customers' machines, then I leave them with a copy of free malwarebytes, and Cryptoprevent.

  • by monkeyzoo ( 3985097 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @08:04PM (#48889691)

    I'm on Windows 7. Here are my tips:

    1) I have run avast real-time for years. I'm a pretty wary, sophisticated user. But it has occasionally blocked malicious elements on webpages. And it once blocked a zip attachment that I got sucked in on with a phishing email before any harm was done. I have also had it give me a few false positives over the years, which are a bit disconcerting to see and annoying until you can get things sorted out.

    2) Second, I run malwarebytes scans from time to time.

    3) Other prevention: adblock plus and noscript plugins.

    4) For seemingly dangerous websites that I still want to be able to access, I use a Sandboxie sandbox for the browser.

  • by machineghost ( 622031 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @08:04PM (#48889693)

    I've used Avira (free-av.com) for years (since Windows XP at least), both on my computers and my friends' and family's, and I've never gotten a virus despite visiting Bit Torrent and other questionable sites.

    It's 100% free and it doesn't install malware (though it might optionally install some crapware, I forget). The only downside is that they pop an alert maybe once a day or so with different messages (the point of which is clearly to prod you to purchase the paid version). I strongly recommend getting the paid version to make those alerts go away ... but I'm embarrassed to admit that I haven't actually done as much myself (sorry Avira!).

  • What do people think of the security of using Windows 7's Virtual PC feature with "undo hard disks"?
    Is this an effective VM? It sure is simpler to get running than a separate VirtualBox or similar.

    • What do people think of the security of using Windows 7's Virtual PC feature with "undo hard disks"?
      Is this an effective VM? It sure is simpler to get running than a separate VirtualBox or similar.

      Virtual PC is basically the worst mainstream virtual machine software that there is. Its video driver is unstable, unreliable crap compared even to virtualbox, which in turn is unstable, unreliable crap compared to vmware. If you want a virtual machine that you can count on, you need vmware. Of course, if you want snapshots, you need workstation. Otherwise, you have to make ordinary backups of your VM files.

      • What about from a security perspective though? It works well enough for me for the rare times I need it, but I wonder if it is effective at isolation?

  • by complete loony ( 663508 ) <Jeremy@Lakeman.gmail@com> on Friday January 23, 2015 @08:12PM (#48889749)
    These days the most effective measure you can take is to install an ad blocker. That will prevent the vast majority of drive by installs. Second, I'd say you need to be very sceptical of freeware software installers. Using a service like Chocolatey [chocolatey.org] to find and install popular utilities will help here. Third, I'd recommend installing Process Explorer [chocolatey.org] as a replacement for the windows Task Manager. Get a feel for what programs are running in the background, and investigate anything you don't yet recognise particularly after installing something new.
  • OP didn't mention whether it's Windows 7 or 8, but Windows 8 includes A/V out of the box. Lots of other good security best practices listed here, as well.

  • ClamWin (Score:5, Interesting)

    by PAjamian ( 679137 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @08:58PM (#48890013)

    ClamWin, the windows port of ClamAV which is relied on for mail scanning on just about every Linux/UNIX mail server you run across.

    I think there may be a better front end that uses the ClamAV database as well, but I tend to just install ClamWin and call it a day.

  • EMET http://support.microsoft.com/k... [microsoft.com] along with whatever antivirus you choose.

    I like ESET, especially the business version with console. I get it for my large customers.
    Kaspersky is good. I use it for email gateways and small offices. The firewall breaks some shit, though.
    I'm always removing viruses from computers that are running avast!, McAfee, Symantec, and AVG, so I won't be using those anytime soon
    Trend Micro seems to be great, but I only have a couple of users running it so I have never u
  • by Zibodiz ( 2160038 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @09:46PM (#48890231) Homepage
    I'm really surprised more people aren't recommending Bit Defender. I use the free version on my own machines and install it on customer PCs, and have had very good results from it. Never pops up asking to upgrade to a premium version, doesn't audibly announce it's updating/scanning/etc (in fact you'll only know it's there if something goes wrong). It also doesn't impact performance very much at all -- way better than Avast or AVG. According to http://www.av-comparatives.org... [av-comparatives.org], they're always at the top of their game.
  • All antivirus sucks, the only difference is how much you pay for it. You give me an PC with any combination of AV product(s) and 15 minutes and I'll give you an infected box, and it won't just be an Adware / Crapware infection. It will be a Screw you type of Cryptovirus or some serious credential stealing backdoor.

    That being said, I use MSE / Windows 8 Defender simply because it's free and the least intrusive of the free AV's and it works great as a canary since every Virus attacks MSE / Defender first and

  • Don't be like the disgusting majority of windows users who log in everytime as admin. Login with regular user access and half the viruses become helpless.
  • If you are running a small business AD environment, especially if its virtualised, we've had a good experience with webroot. Pushing it out via group policy, easy to manage and track centrally via its webconsole and doesn't kill your shared network storage.

    Plays nice with other virus checkers to, we also use malware bytes free for random scans of desktops.

  • Running Security Essentials + MalwareBytes for close to 5 years now.

  • We have excellent results with Sophos. It has not been a drain on resources and has blocked everything so far for a couple of years on over 250 windows systems and servers. Symantec became ineffective and ruined performance. Microsoft Security Essentials is much better than it used to be and if you only surf safe sites and run commercial software, it will likely be fine; it comes loaded on Windows 8 and is free for Windows 7.
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    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Saturday January 24, 2015 @12:17AM (#48890901)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • by Qbertino ( 265505 ) <moiraNO@SPAMmodparlor.com> on Saturday January 24, 2015 @09:57AM (#48892299)

    Need to run special software tied to the OS? No? ... Install Linux.
    Really, it's that easy.

    Ubuntu can be a drag, in more ways than one, but it's worth a try - and it does look really cool. Seriously.
    Suse and Redhat are hassle-free to install aswell. All three are definitly more hassle-free than any Windows installation you can do thesse days.

    I've got Ubuntu 14.04 on my ThinkPad. And while it can be anoying (which OS isn't?), it is way ahead of Windows in usability and you can get tons of books and free info on the web for it.

    Other than that I'd recommend Mac OS X or Chrome OS - but since you already have your laptop I guess that's ruled out.

    Welcome to the camp. Enjoy.

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